Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

Ballard

buglawton wrote: »

If one reads the article instead of just looking at the pictures:

"Deltapoll interviewed an online sample of 1,904 adults aged 18+ from August 14 to 16. Results have been weighted to the profile of all GB adults"

I beg your pardon. I scanned the article a couple of times but missed it both times. My mistake.

Zero_Gravitas

buglawton wrote: »

If one reads the article instead of just looking at the pictures:

"Deltapoll interviewed an online sample of 1,904 adults aged 18+ from August 14 to 16. Results have been weighted to the profile of all GB adults"

That’s as maybe. They still can’t add up, however - which I would have thought was a fairly fundamental requirement for a polling organisation.

Anyway, if you are trying to suggest that this is a fair and unbiased representation of the thoughts of the nation; then you must also accept that the yougov polling suggesting that a majority now support a second referendum is also fair and unbiased:

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2018/07/27/first-time-more-people-support-second-referendum/

buglawton

Interestingly the Yougov poll has a trend chart on the question:
Once the Brexit negotiations are complete and the terms of Britain's exit from the EU have been agreed, do you think there should or should not be a referendum to accept or reject them?



That chart has been showing a strong opposite result for a long while.
So unlike before, this chart will start to be posted a lot by remainers now.

Yougov / Times* poll sample size: 1,631
The Sun poll sample size: 1,904
*Same publishing group as the The Sun.

Link to the Yougov poll:
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2018/07/27/first-time-more-people-support-second-referendum/

The elusive link to the Sun poll result (image in post #575)
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7047947/british-voters-give-brexit-verdict/

Herzlos

It's been posted by remainers a few times in the past because the trend is clear. As time goes on; less people are interested in Brexit.

Thrugelmir

buglawton wrote: »

Interestingly the Yougov poll has a trend chart on the question:
Once the Brexit negotiations are complete and the terms of Britain's exit from the EU have been agreed, do you think there should or should not be a referendum to accept or reject them?

Hard Brexit here we come. :think:

gfplux

cogito wrote: »

Relevance?

You said
“If you cannot see that the one country which stands to lose the most from a no deal outcome is being played by Brussels, you are indeed blind.”

Brussels might be playing London but London spent months repeating the mantra
No deal is better than a bad deal.

What impression do you think that gave Brussels. London put the possibility of a no deal squarely and firmly on the table.

The answer is in the mantra

NO DEAL IS BETTER THAN A BAD DEAL

Be careful what you wish for.

gfplux

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

It'd be interesting to see if any stats exist.

FWIW my suspicion, and certainly what I've seen in my circle of acquaintances, is that most people who move to the USA/Can or Aus/NZ tend never to move back.

Whereas most that move to EMEA locations tend to come back eventually.

I suspect that the difference may be because it's so incredibly difficult and expensive from an eligibility and paperwork perspective to move to the likes of Aus/USA that anyone who has got through that process tends to be incredibly committed to it.

Whereas as just about anyone can move from the UK to the EU hassle free it's more viable as a temporary situation.

A very good point. However after Brexit is will be (perhaps) equally difficult to move to work in the EU27 so after all that effort bright young talent will just stay in Frankfurt, Paris or Luxembourg.

cogito

gfplux wrote: »

You said
“If you cannot see that the one country which stands to lose the most from a no deal outcome is being played by Brussels, you are indeed blind.”

Brussels might be playing London but London spent months repeating the mantra
No deal is better than a bad deal.

What impression do you think that gave Brussels. London put the possibility of a no deal squarely and firmly on the table.

The answer is in the mantra

NO DEAL IS BETTER THAN A BAD DEAL

Be careful what you wish for.

What on earth are you on about? I'm talking about Ireland, not London.

StevieJ

buglawton wrote: »

The elusive link to the Sun poll result (image in post #575)
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7047947/british-voters-give-brexit-verdict/

Well done finding that link, I note further down the page, the same people also came out with this.

There is also a split over whether leaving the EU will prove a historic mistake. Forty-four per cent think it will, 30 per cent believe it will not. One statement united 59 per cent of voters — “I’m really bored by Brexit.”

Seems like those Sun voters want our country to 'go down the pan' Very sad.

ukcarper

StevieJ wrote: »

Well done finding that link, I note further down the page, the same people also came out with this.



Seems like those Sun voters want our country to 'go down the pan' Very sad.

Still down to remain supporters campaigning I suppose they did not believe all of the doom mongering before referendum and obviously don't now. Perhaps remain should concentrate more on convincing people of the benefits of remaining in EU instead of constantly saying what a disaster it will be when we leave.