Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

ukcarper

phillw wrote: »

I recently celebrated christmas with some Muslims from Mauritias, they told me that back how they celebrate all the different religious festivals.

EU.

That doesn't really answer my question what country with similar levels of immigration as U.K. has handled it better.

Thrugelmir

Matt_L wrote: »

I am of the belief that people like phil like to accuse leave voters of being racists or xenophobic in some weird attempt to shame us for our decision...

Lives in a gated community one suspects. Issue around here currently is trafficked Eastern European women. Sad state of affairs.

phillw

ukcarper wrote: »

That doesn't really answer my question what country with similar levels of immigration as U.K. has handled it better.

The numbers are irrelevant, it's how you start makes a big difference.

Once you have areas for certain types of people, then it's going to cause problems for a generation or so. Then the children tend to sort things out, if you let them.

The past was xenophobic and we're still dealing with the fallout.

phillw

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Lives in a gated community one suspects.

A rather fanciful dream of yours. I live in a university town which attracts a lot of international students, plus we also attract a lot of immigrants from all over the world.

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Issue around here currently is trafficked Eastern European women. Sad state of affairs.

Definitely. That won't stop post brexit. If you're prepared to break the law and traffic women into the UK, then you're not going to worry about whether they are here legally. With the sums of money that they can make from trafficking, they are able to afford the more expensive means of smuggling women in. Less money to fight those kinds of crimes will make the situation worse.

Certain types of intelligence won't be able to be shared, if we don't give assurance that our laws are similar to the EU's laws.

BobQ

ess0two wrote: »

Seems remainers in parliament are holding us up leaving.Our minds are made, its 'leave' no cold feet here,just stubborn remain politicians refusing to follow the will of the people or the referendum.
Should'nt really concern you,living in the EU?

Our minds are not made up for leave according to the latest polls

phillw

BobQ wrote: »

Our minds are not made up for leave according to the latest polls

We've had a referendum to join and one to leave, so that is like a 1-1 draw.

We're in extra time and about to go into penalty shoot out.

BobQ

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Corbyn playing his own game of politics. No interest in the people. Just his now outdated ideology. If people consider Brexit to be a danger to the economy. Be a real wake up call if Labour appear to be heading for a GE victory. International currency and money markets will price accordingly.

Corbyn has demonstrated himself in his true colours as an opportunist. Labour has a policy and he is sticking to like manure to the proverbial blanket. A true leader and candidate for PM would accept these are changing times and leadership means adapting to those circumstances.

But I doubt the Corbyn factor and its market impact is as big as the damage Brexit is and will do to the UK economy.

phillw

BobQ wrote: »

Corbyn has demonstrated himself in his true colours as an opportunist.

I'm pretty sure that is how you make it in politics.

I never thought I'd vote Labour & it might be a huge mistake, I just couldn't live myself voting for Theresa May.

ukcarper wrote: »

The one thing brexit has done is to show us what our MPs are really like.

It was already there to see. In fact that was one of my reasons for voting to remain, the EU has saved us from our own politicians countless times. I remember a time when that didn't happen and it was dreadful.

BobQ

phillw wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that is how you make it in politics.

I never thought I'd vote Labour & it might be a huge mistake, I just couldn't live myself voting for Theresa May.

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I have never voted Tory in my life as far as I can recall. I take your point about politicians but the point which concerns me is that Corbyn is rigidly following the conference decision whatever the circumstances. Annual conferences set the direction based on the circumstances at the time. Failing to adapt that policy when circumstances change is the opposite of leadership. Opportunism over long term policies like police numbers is the norm for oppositions but this is short term and critical to the future of the UK.

Thrugelmir

BobQ wrote: »

Labour has a policy

Labour, under Corbyn, has an objective, no policy. Momentum is extremely effective. Far removed from the ideals of what Labour used to represent though. A lot of Labour MP's are going to be unseated prior to the next election one suspects.