Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

movilogo

I find that most people that assume people are racists are the biggest racists of all.

Very true.

Remainers are racist because they want preferential treatment of EU people over more qualified people from other parts of the world.

kabayiri

PhilE wrote: »

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But please, do suggest to all some British car manufacturers that are as good as the German companies you quoted. Also, British household goods as decent as ones manufactured in the UK.
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I have the top of the line microwave option from the better German brand...

...made in the UK.

You need to do some research mate.

Filo25

Moby wrote: »

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-unions-theresa-may-plan-unite-no-deal-backing-eu-funding-a8721931.html
So Mayhem has finally contacted the unions. She must be desperate. A tory offering to guarantee workers rights after brexit. Yep that'll work.

PM will lose meaningful vote on Tuesday by a majority of 228, research by @BBCPolitics finds. Number of MPs opposing up by 19 since the delay last month. For: 206, Against: 433.

If the loss is so comprehensive.....Surely she has to go.

Surely she can't lose it that badly, I think there is a certain amount of positioning going on here so that a closer defeat can be portrayed as some kind of victory.

I'm still not ruling out the vote getting pushed again.

movilogo

Surely she can't lose it that badly, I think there is a certain amount of positioning going on here so that a closer defeat can be portrayed as some kind of victory.

Think you are right. A narrow gap opens the possibility of re-run of the vote shortly after offering small concessions to MPs who will switch side on 2nd round.

A GE won't solve anything, unless it is contest between a Brexit party vs EU party.

Both Conservative and Labour need to split for that to happen.

Wonder if Farage and JRM going to lanuch a new party

Herzlos

You'd hope she'd get a closer loss this time, after all the bribery.

movilogo wrote: »

Very true.

Remainers are racist because they want preferential treatment of EU people over more qualified people from other parts of the world.

We've not had that one for a while. So you're all for free movement of everyone, then? Why knock EU people down to rest of world conditions when we can level the playing field by moving rest of the world to EU conditions?


The reason for freedom of movement within the EU, which isn't an active plan to discriminate against the rest of the world, is mostly about fairness. EU citizens, when working here, are subject to exactly the same rights that natives are, with free movement of people, goods, services and capital. They can stay indefinitely (presuming they have a job), can bring family members, can visit home, can send money/goods home and so on.


None of that applies to someone from, say, Jamaica (because I saw an article about recruiting Jamaican nurses), who don't get the same status as UK citizens, don't have the automatic right to send goods/money home without restriction, don't have permanent right to stay, don't have free movement back home and so on. Until they've applied for and recieved citizenship (which is hugely expensive), they can just get their right to stay revoked and kicked back out of the country (just refer to the Windrush scandal if you don't believe me).

kabayiri

Herzlos wrote: »

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We've not had that one for a while. So you're all for free movement of everyone, then? Why knock EU people down to rest of world conditions when we can level the playing field by moving rest of the world to EU conditions?
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Leveling up won't happen.

Why do you think Mondelez has moved confectionery production to the huge plant in Poland?

Why has Ford moved transit production to Turkey?

Why does practically every major bank or service company use thousands upon thousands of call centre workers in India?

Why have factories moved from China to even cheaper Vietnam and Cambodia?

Labour cost is a significant overhead, and global players will always seek to lower overheads.

There is no evidence that the EU deterred all these major institutions shifting vast numbers of jobs outside the bloc.

ess0two

PhilE wrote: »

Well, if you look on your street you'll observe that a great many of the UK population need German cars.

But please, do suggest to all some British car manufacturers that are as good as the German companies you quoted. Also, British household goods as decent as ones manufactured in the UK.

There aren't any, are there. You just hate non white English people, and Brexit has been your golden moment to prove that the white man rules. Except any African trade deal will mean more African immigrants, and that's going to be a worse problem for you.

But you didn't think of that, did you.

Far from it,this post highlights your true colours.

movilogo

EU allowed Slovakia to tempt Jaguar Land Rover away from UK with £110m state aid pledge

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1070509/Brexit-news-UK-EU-Slovakia-Jacob-Rees-Mogg-Jaguar-Land-Rover-job-latest

So Slovakia received money (where UK contributed) from EU which then they used to bribe a UK business to move jobs out of UK and EU allows that.

Still the remainers argue staying in EU is better for economy.:mad:

kabayiri

movilogo wrote: »

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Still the remainers argue staying in EU is better for economy.:mad:

Obviously not good if you are a displaced UK car worker. But...if you are someone who earned consulting money facilitating this change, then you think differently.

EU .... could steal a tagline from Star Trek ... "for the few, not the many"

andrewf75

Surely building up the economies of Eastern Europe so that 1) their people don’t just migrate to Western Europe and 2) so that they become a new market for our goods/services *is* good for our economy.

Its obviously not good when a factory closes and moves to another country, but these things happen and will always happen. Its far more likely to happen when we remove ourselves from the world’s biggest single market!