Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

cogito

gfplux wrote: »

Amazing that a couple of posts come in mentioning withdrawal of the A50 and off we go again with Brexiters discussing an organisation that we are leaving. It is as if they have to keep justifying their position on the EU.

Of course, remainers never discuss Brexit. Have you looked in the mirror lately?

cogito

buglawton wrote: »

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/theresa-may-brexit-deal-agreement-key-points-irish-border-eu-citizen-rights-a3994536.html


So the draft agreement has left scope for punitive tariffs on fish exports if Britain doesn't kowtow on fishing rights. Quite deliberately. And now France has piped up to drive the point home.

And the problem is what, exactly? Are EU countries the only ones who buy our fish?

cogito

Needless to say, the text of the political declaration has leaked from Brussels and the Torygraph have it.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/11/22/brext-deal-latest-downing-st-confident-summit-will-go-ahead/

Possibly paywalled.

Filo25

cogito wrote: »

Needless to say, the text of the political declaration has leaked from Brussels and the Torygraph have it.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/11/22/brext-deal-latest-downing-st-confident-summit-will-go-ahead/

Possibly paywalled.

Am I right in thinking that the political declaration is non-binding, so is basically just some aspirational stuff?

Rinoa

cogito wrote: »

Needless to say, the text of the political declaration has leaked from Brussels and the Torygraph have it.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/11/22/brext-deal-latest-downing-st-confident-summit-will-go-ahead/

Possibly paywalled.

... and here's TM in Brussels.

cogito

Filo25 wrote: »

Am I right in thinking that the political declaration is non-binding, so is basically just some aspirational stuff?

Bovine excrement is what I would call it but, hey, it fulfils Article 8 of the Lisbon Treaty so it's OK.

Lungboy

Filo25 wrote: »

Am I right in thinking that the political declaration is non-binding, so is basically just some aspirational stuff?

Correct, it has no legal status, it's just pie in the sky ideals.

Matt_L

Filo25 wrote: »

Am I right in thinking that the political declaration is non-binding, so is basically just some aspirational stuff?

You are correct, it can only be made legally biding once we have actually left next year...

cogito

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

That's the reality of trade deals...

Is it really? As you seem to know so much about tariffs, perhaps you would tell us just what punitive tariffs the EU could legally impose on the UK.

Lungboy

cogito wrote: »

Is it really? As you seem to know so much about tariffs, perhaps you would tell us just what punitive tariffs the EU could legally impose on the UK.

If we go No Deal and end up on WTO rules they wouldn't be punitive but they'd be crippling.