Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

kabayiri

andrewf75 wrote: »

you could say that about the US as well I think!

Don't disagree with you. These things are just about weighing up pros and cons and coming down on one side.

It's not like some of the EU idiots in charge hide their ambitions.

Verhofstadt is a particular pillock :
https://youtu.be/8vitmNpr9Vg?t=75

It's the same old formula : poorly manage a situation until a crisis evolves, and then use this as an opportunity for a power grab.

Mind...Donald Rumsfeld was no better.

Lungboy

It looks like someone forgot to ask Spain what they thought....

Chadsman

cogito wrote: »

Ooh, look! A straw man.

If he didn't lie, he wouldn’t need to respond.

but Somerset Capital Management did reply

The decision to launch the fund was nothing whatsoever to do with Brexit.

Tromking

Lungboy wrote: »

It looks like someone forgot to ask Spain what they thought....

Damn.
My money was on the Walloons!

Thrugelmir

Lungboy wrote: »

It looks like someone forgot to ask Spain what they thought....

Scroll back a few thousand posts and you'll see that this was always highlighted as a potential land mine. Shows how fragile relationships actually are. Europe is far from united. When National interests always come first.

Herzlos

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Scroll back a few thousand posts and you'll see that this was always highlighted as a potential land mine. Shows how fragile relationships actually are. Europe is far from united. When National interests always come first.

They've been far more united about brexit than most of us expected.

Is this disunity with Spain likely to help or hinder us?

Zero_Gravitas

DUP have just declined to support the government over the budget bill:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-46259459

Do we our billion quid back now?

mrginge

I must admit I’m getting more and more torn on where this is going.

On the one hand the thought of possibly the worst negotiated deal in the history of everything being actually passed into legislation could be utterly hilarious, yet on the other hand the thought that we actually end up with Jeremy Corbyn as prime minister is equally as hilarious.

Anyone who has listened to TM’s weekend of ‘This deal and me are the least crap option’ heartstring-pulling desperation or who heard jezza’s speech at the CBI today can be in no doubt about this pair of political heavyweights credentials.

I’m still clinging on to the hope that MPs are really not stupid enough to vote for this garbage and the resulting booting of TM gives us a proper general election. Could it be that the free-thinking liberals that are the DUP actually do the whole of the UK a massive favour and pull the plug on this farce?

buglawton

And I've just had an epiphany: 'No deal' is fake news.
There is: May's deal and WTO deal.

No such thing as 'No deal'.

Moby

it is likely that the next x number of years of Britain’s life outside the EU will see this country subject to the vast majority of EU laws, but with no say in Brussels. This is the “vassalage” that Brexiters rage about. They are right but it is also right that they put us in this mess! Brexiters are shocked to discover what was obvious all along: there is no easy, cost-free way for the UK to leave the EU. We had a really good deal, enjoying more of the benefits and suffering less of the burdens of membership. This country is outside the euro, is not part of the Schengen border-free area and gets a hefty rebate from the EU budget. That ended when this country voted to leave in 2016. This was a self-inflicted blow of historic proportions, driven by the nationalistic loons who repeatedly lied to us and they have endangered the integrity of the Union in the process. Scottish nationalism will be resurgent in the coming years and the Irish border question will bring forward the likelihood of Irish reunion. The reopening of the question of Gibraltar is a sign of things of come.

Unsurprisingly no brexiter has been able to explain how exactly our lives will be better in April next year....... but they plough on ahead regardless......to me this seems to be pure bloody mindedness. Do they think this country will suddenly heal and we'll all live together in harmony once we've left. I don't think so!
My signature sums it up.