Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

A_Pandiculation

mayonnaise wrote: »

So......what do our forum brexiteers make of this draft withdrawal agreement?

Moby wrote: »

I see no responses yet....wonder why!

I didn't realise that using this forum would lead to my being in such exalted company! Two posters both seemingly with knowledge of this draft agreement which hadn't even been shown to cabinet ministers when they posted, much less made public are wanting to discuss the contents of it.


I tell you what, when you post a link to the official draft agreement I will comment otherwise what are we to comment on?

gfplux

Carl31 wrote: »

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-brexit-visas-no-deal-british-citizens-latest-a8631671.html

Mirror readers can stop panicking about their holidays

Although they may have to worry in 2021 about ETIAS.

http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2018/09/05/european-travel-information-and-authorisation-system-etias-council-adopts-regulation/

A_Pandiculation

gfplux wrote: »

Poor infrastructure in the water industry!

Let’s blame the EU for that. Yes let’s.

Except nobody did.

gfplux

A_Pandiculation wrote: »

AKA another remainer project fear lie exposed.

I agree needing a visa is unlikely.
However if you have a criminal record travel in Europe just like America will be more complicated.

http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2018/09/05/european-travel-information-and-authorisation-system-etias-council-adopts-regulation/

A_Pandiculation

gfplux wrote: »

Although they may have to worry in 2021 about ETIAS.

http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2018/09/05/european-travel-information-and-authorisation-system-etias-council-adopts-regulation/

Do you not understand what that is? Unless someone is flagged up for some reason ETIAS will make zero difference to oh about 99.9999% of British tourists to the EU.
Your link makes it clear enough surely.

It will allow to identify those who may pose a security threat before they reach the European Union and deny them the authorisation to travel.

ETA you edited your post.
Anyway, wrong. A criminal record alone isn't enough to trigger a refusal to travel via EITAS.

mrschaucer

gfplux wrote: »

I agree needing a visa is unlikely.
However if you have a criminal record travel in Europe just like America will be more complicated.

http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2018/09/05/european-travel-information-and-authorisation-system-etias-council-adopts-regulation/

"Am I bovvered?"

A_Pandiculation

gfplux wrote: »

Who created this strange society where a visit to the NHS requires for free an interpreter.

Just ask British immigrants in France, Spain, Germany and Italy (plus the other EU23) if they get an interpreter for free when they visit a Doctor or Hospital.

Please, please stop blaming the EU and immigrants for the silly decisions taken by Britain.

IMHO I don't get this anyway.
Online translators nowadays are pretty effective, even with medical terminology so long as it's not too technical. Why bother with a physical translator when you could make use of technology.

gfplux

A_Pandiculation wrote: »

Do you not understand what that is? Unless someone is flagged up for some reason ETIAS will make zero difference to oh about 99.9999% of British tourists to the EU.
Your link makes it clear enough surely.


ETA you edited your post.
Anyway, wrong. A criminal record alone isn't enough to trigger a refusal to travel via EITAS.

That’s great to know. Although I did say they MAY have to worry.

gfplux

A_Pandiculation wrote: »

IMHO I don't get this anyway.
Online translators nowadays are pretty effective, even with medical terminology so long as it's not too technical. Why bother with a physical translator when you could make use of technology.

So we agree. However too many people blame the immigrants or the EU for this.
There are just too many ills in Britain that have been blamed on the EU.
Given that track record can you imagine that changing after Britain has left. It will be an excuse wheeled out by politicians and Brexiters for decades.

mayonnaise

A_Pandiculation wrote: »

I didn't realise that using this forum would lead to my being in such exalted company! Two posters both seemingly with knowledge of this draft agreement which hadn't even been shown to cabinet ministers when they posted, much less made public are wanting to discuss the contents of it.

Boris Johnson, JRM, Peter Bone et al have already dismissed the draft agreement as unacceptable.
You mean they made that judgment before they even read the 500-odd pages?
You're trying too hard again.