Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

cogito

Moby wrote: »

Hey guys we've been saved. Everything is going to be alright!:-

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1043247/Brexit-news-UK-EU-Theresa-May-Commonwealth-trade-deal-Sierra-Leone-latest

That's great. Up there with the EU's deals with the Faroe Islands and Akrotiri and Dhekelia.

wunferall

Arklight wrote: »

Maybe if you go back again you might pass the unit on referencing. Tell you what, how about instead of giving me a list of websites to read that you believe "rubbishes" what I have written, why don't you do the rubbishing. Right here. On this forum, in this discussion.

Yourself.

Don't keep me waiting!

If ever proof were need that the pen is indeed mightier than the sword.

Being as polite as is possible given your provocation and with all due respect, you might like to ask any persons of your acquaintance suitably qualified to even enter university just where your post there goes a little bit wrong.
Don't be at all surprised if the response is "all of it" and above all please consider that it might be polite (and beneficial for your health) also not to be as confrontational with them as that post is.

wunferall

ruperts wrote: »

A country can (and ours does) achieve GDP growth simply by adding to the population, which doesn’t necessarily have any positive impact on the ability of the average individual to put food on the table.

Even if you refine it to say, real gdp per capita, it still doesn’t work. We could probably increase real gdp per capita by abolishing workers rights and the minimum wage, allowing businesses free reign to exploit whoever and however they want and in doing so make a lot more money, but then the median individual would likely be considerably worse off.

Thinking GDP is quite a useless measure is not a new or unique opinion, David Cameron thought the same and that’s why the ONS now attempt to measure wellbeing in different ways.

David Cameron?
Oh well that's fine, because he's been proven so accurate with his "thoughts" hasn't he?
:wall:
Besides which none of those "different ways" are any more accurate.
I do say in earlier posts that GDP is only an indicator BTW.

wunferall

I see that nobody has posted of James Dyson's win over the EU's (deliberately?) flawed rules on energy labelling for vacuum cleaners after a five year battle.

A court in Luxembourg on Thursday said it would uphold the claim by the engineering group that the system misled consumers and discriminated against its own technology and would annul the regulation.

https://www.ft.com/content/e3d518b0-e337-11e8-a6e5-792428919cee
Well done Sir James.
:T

buglawton

Like the Dyson Singapore move, not really a Brexit story though. The British or US govt is quite capable of producing cack-handed legislation on its own when it comes to being fair to the consumer.

Thrugelmir

wunferall wrote: »

Of course the UK's debt levels remain an issue - something that many of us agree should be better taken into account when Labour discuss their proposals for the future prior to every election.

You are overlooking consumer debt levels.

But it's not all about selling the family silver

Why are airports, ports, hotels, motorways, the National lottery, office blocks , football clubs to name some examples owned by overseas investors and pension funds? Profit flows abroad.

antrobus

Thrugelmir wrote: »

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Why are airports, ports, hotels, motorways, the National lottery, office blocks , football clubs to name some examples owned by overseas investors and pension funds? Profit flows abroad.

UK trade deficit.

Annual income £20, expenditure £20 0s 6d, can result in misery deferred if you have sufficient valuables to flog to plug the gap in the medium term.

cogito

Thrugelmir wrote: »

You are overlooking consumer debt levels.



Why are airports, ports, hotels, motorways, the National lottery, office blocks , football clubs to name some examples owned by overseas investors and pension funds? Profit flows abroad.

Why are overseas businesses owned by UK companies? The UK is the biggest overseas investor in the world after the US and Germany. You can't have it both ways.

Moby

A good article on our true position in the world.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=site:ft.com+Brexit+is+teaching+Britain+its+true+place+in+the+world&oq=site:ft.com+Brexit+is+teaching+Britain+its+true+place+in+the+world&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i58.4415j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Herzlos

That's a pretty good article, pretty balanced. Top 3 to top 10 sums it up pretty well.

wunferall wrote: »

If ever proof were need that the pen is indeed mightier than the sword.

Being as polite as is possible given your provocation and with all due respect, you might like to ask any persons of your acquaintance suitably qualified to even enter university just where your post there goes a little bit wrong.
Don't be at all surprised if the response is "all of it" and above all please consider that it might be polite (and beneficial for your health) also not to be as confrontational with them as that post is.

You're not doing a good job of pretending to have digested the articles. If you had a point you'd have made it by now. He's asking you to explain why he's wrong so why not take the opportunity to spell it out for him and take the moral high ground?

You've got some cash iron points, so you may as well share them, it's a debating forum after all, not a "listing lots of links and running away" forum. We're quite happy to explain to you when you're wrong, after all :beer: