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Brexit the economy and house prices part 6
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I don't see it satisfying the vast majority you obviously do because it suites you.
Polling has repeatedly shown that the majority of people in the UK would support an EEA/EFTA outcome.
It's the only solution that can command a majority in both Parliament and amongst voters.
So that, or something very close to it, is where we'll end up.
Out of the political structure so no 'EU Superstate', out of the Agricultural policy and fishing policy, mostly still in the single market for goods, and with a 'customs association' to replace the 'customs union', and we'll 'take back control' on immigration and then just choose to let in broadly the same numbers as today anyway.
It may not be the Brexit you want, but it's almost certainly going to be the only Brexit that can be made to work.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Got any proof of that.HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Polling has repeatedly shown that the majority of people in the UK would support an EEA/EFTA outcome.
It's the only solution that can command a majority in both Parliament and amongst voters.
So that, or something very close to it, is where we'll end up.
Out of the political structure so no 'EU Superstate', out of the Agricultural policy and fishing policy, mostly still in the single market for goods, and with a 'customs association' to replace the 'customs union', and we'll 'take back control' on immigration and then just choose to let in broadly the same numbers as today anyway.
It may not be the Brexit you want, but it's almost certainly going to be the only Brexit that can be made to work.
I agree there would be a majority in Parliament for it but the there is a majority in Parliament for remain if they had the balls they would not voted for EU referendum bill.
I voted remain and wish we had won but it's not about what I wish.0 -
Got any proof of that.
Sure...
http://uk.businessinsider.com/norway-style-soft-brexit-most-popular-outcome-among-british-people-opinium-poll-2018-6A soft Brexit in which Britain retains close ties to the European Union is now the most popular form of Brexit among British people, according to a new poll.
Opinium research suggests that something very close to the so-called Norway option would be received better by the public than any other Brexit model — including Theresa May's ambition of a free trade deal similar to that between the EU and Canada.
By contrast, leaving the EU without a deal — an option pushed by a growing number of Conservative MPs — is the least popular option with the public, with just 8% saying it would be a "completely acceptable" outcome.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Got any proof of that.
I agree there would be a majority in Parliament for it but the there is a majority in Parliament for remain if they had the balls they would not voted for EU referendum bill.
I voted remain and wish we had won but it's not about what I wish.
No-one has any proof, but common sense supports what Hamish says.
Its reasonable to assume that Remainers want a soft brexit, put together with those Brexit voters who want that kind of relationship it is almost certainly a majority.
The majority of parliament want it
Business overwhelmingly wants it
It solves the Irish border issue
Hard to come up with another route that pleases more people.0 -
Hard to come up with another route that pleases more people.
Indeed.
As polling clearly shows...
Modified EEA (such as Switzerland has in effect through 120 bilateral treaties instead of straight EEA) and straight EEA are the most popular options.
More so than Canada, Chequers or No Deal.“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
I'd say most people don't want a hard brexit but that doesn't mean staying in customs union and single market will satisfy leavers.No-one has any proof, but common sense supports what Hamish says.
Its reasonable to assume that Remainers want a soft brexit, put together with those Brexit voters who want that kind of relationship it is almost certainly a majority.
The majority of parliament want it
Business overwhelmingly wants it
It solves the Irish border issue
Hard to come up with another route that pleases more people.0 -
I'd say most people don't want a hard brexit but that doesn't mean staying in customs union and single market will satisfy leavers.
Not suggesting it would, just that it would satisfy *some* of them, enough to make an overall majority.
We can’t satisfy everyone, this is about satisfying as many as possible.0 -
Of course I'm not. Did you actually read my post?
I did, you said it was skewed against UK companies and then went on to highlight an example by a Labour government, that essentially banned a Canadian company from bidding because of it's poor credit rating resulting it laying of 1400 UK staff.
I don't see any restrictions on the tender process by the EU, the restriction came from the UK. Or am I missing something?0 -
Personally I don't think it would, I think it would satisfy very few as it would require us to accept four freedoms and ECJ.Not suggesting it would, just that it would satisfy *some* of them, enough to make an overall majority.
We can’t satisfy everyone, this is about satisfying as many as possible.0 -
Modified EEA could be anythingHAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »Indeed.
As polling clearly shows...
Modified EEA (such as Switzerland has in effect through 120 bilateral treaties instead of straight EEA) and straight EEA are the most popular options.
More so than Canada, Chequers or No Deal.0
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