Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

Herzlos

.string. wrote: »

You do realise that Barnier's position is dictated to him by Member States.

And that the member states are wanting all interaction to be done via Barnier?

Moby

Herzlos wrote: »

And that the member states are wanting all interaction to be done via Barnier?

I thought everyone knew that........... Apparently it was Barnier who asked for the meeting:-
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/27/i-will-work-to-avoid-national-disaster-of-no-deal-brexit-corbyn-tells-eu?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other


Rudd says a Canada deal is unacceptable to about 40 MP's
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2018/sep/27/may-faces-revolt-from-40-tory-mps-if-she-opts-for-canada-brexit-deal-rudd-says-politics-live

Thrugelmir

.string. wrote: »

You do realise that Barnier's position is dictated to him by Member States.

He is after all the nominated chief negotiator.

Moby

Possibly Corbyn will bend his red lines and so will May and there could be a final deal which will involve us staying in the Customs Union but not the Single Market?

.string.

Thrugelmir wrote: »

He is after all the nominated chief negotiator.

Indeed, he is their mouthpiece; he "negotiates" the detail but not the red lines ; he might make recommendations regarding those red lines but it is the Member States that determine them and the limits of what he can negotiation.

So if you want to influence decision makers, that has to include the Member States.

Mind you, the time may come when the likes of Barnier will be telling Member States what to do. Some might claim that happens already and is at the root of the decision of the Brits to leave.

Moby

A sample of today's offerings on Brexit:-


'Thanks to Brexit, the British voice counts for less at the UN'
...and this:
No-deal Brexit 'would stop British farming exports for six months'
...and this:
UK appoints food supplies minister amid fears of no-deal Brexit
...and this:
Brexit red lines pose 'severe threat' to fight against drug harm and organised crime, public health experts tell government
...and this:
No-deal Brexit to cost food and drink retailers £9.3bn, with most to be passed on to customers
Will this pleasure never end?

Carl31

Moby wrote: »

Will this pleasure never end?

none of its started yet, so shall we wait and see when (or if) it does?

masterwilde

The cost to the public will be bigger than anyone ever thought, its so scary its almost unbelievable, but the government is staying its course being inept and incompetent.

Joan_number_1_2

masterwilde wrote: »

The cost to the public will be bigger than anyone ever thought, its so scary its almost unbelievable, but the government is staying its course being inept and incompetent.

If it is a big cost - and that's a big "IF" - at least the people will have chosen.
Unlike the costs associated with the EU, not all of which are purely financial.

masterwilde

Most have no idea about the real brexit. now you say If, well I ask you one thing...how do you resolve the Irish border?

Without it, no deal simple.

Now as for funding EU, last couple of years we have collectively given less to the EU than we have to Northern Ireland.