Brexit the economy and house prices part 6

ukcarper

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Not really a May supportter, but sounds like one of those books that only those who already dislike her would read.

I don't see anybody else doing a better job and it appears to me nobody really wants the job as they would be in a no win situation.

mayonnaise

Moby wrote: »

I'm reading 'Fallout' by Tim Shipman, a highly regarded journalists commentary on the last election and resulting fallout. People who still have any respect for May should read it. It describes what a disaster she is, totally dependent on the advice of two unelected advisers who controlled access to anyone else, bullied anyone who wasn't onside and who ruined the careers of good civil servants to save their own skins.

It's an interesting read. His previous book 'All out war' as well.

Nick Timothy's role can't be underestimated. The guy basically wrote the Clarence House speech and as such defined all of Theresa's red lines which got us in the current mess.
An unelected No.10 adviser drafting policies for a clueless PM. And the Europhobes point at the EU and squeal 'democratic deficit!'

Herzlos

ukcarper wrote: »

I'd agree to some extent and as May is getting criticised from both sides it shows she must being doing something right. The only thing I would add is we don't know how EU would react if we had a brexit supporting governments and they new that we would leave without a deal instead of thinking we will back down.

Or it could be that she's doing a truly terrible job. Arkams Razor and all that.

I do agree that noone else wants her job, it's the only reason she still has it.
Leading the country through this mess is a lose/lose proposition. She's backed into a corner and all options are disastrous.

I think a good judge of how well it's going is who's taking credit for it, and who's taking shots at it.
For instance, if Boris felt it had any chance of success he'd be claiming it was all his idea, instead the rat has fled the sinking ship.

Thrugelmir

mayonnaise wrote: »

An unelected No.10 adviser drafting policies for a clueless PM.

What's new in politics recently........Singling out May isn't representative. Doesn't Momentum have a similar ring as Militant (in days of old).

gfplux

Great news for British farmers suffering from a shortage of pickers.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-05/u-k-proposes-seasonal-worker-trial-for-non-eu-farm-laborers
QUOTE
An annual 2,500 workers over the age of 18 will be granted six-month visas to come to Britain from next spring to work on fruit and vegetable farms, Home Secretary Sajid Javid and Environment Secretary Michael Gove said Thursday in a statement. The program will run through December 2020, to alleviate labor shortages during peak production, they said.

“We have listened to the powerful arguments from farmers about the need for seasonal labor to keep the horticulture industry productive and profitable,” Gove said. “From lettuce in East Anglia to strawberries in Scotland, we want to make sure that farmers can continue to grow, sell and export.”
END QUOTE.

Phew, that is a relief 2500 it obviously the correct number as their arrival, monitoring and eventual departure will probably take quite a lot of (new) staff.

Malthusian

Herzlos wrote: »

I wish I could be so confident about that.

I recommend hypnotherapy. You have the power to change your way of thinking, and you don't have to live your whole life in a fog of pessimism and hate.

antrobus

Moby wrote: »

http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/dg0rjrkwsz/Eurotrack_July18_w.pdf
Interesting poll showing the level of support for the EU in a sample of countries:
shows remain/leave as:

UK 47/41
Germany 55/23
France 49/26
Denmark 60/26
Sweden 56/28
Finland 53/28
Norway 20/62

Strange. Norway is not a member of the EU.

Perhaps they mean join/remain?

antrobus

Herzlos wrote: »

Or it could be that she's doing a truly terrible job. Arkams Razor and all that.

I think you mean Occam's Razor.:)

Arkham is the asylum where the Joker gets imprisoned after he gets defeated by Batman.

Herzlos

Malthusian wrote: »

I recommend hypnotherapy. You have the power to change your way of thinking, and you don't have to live your whole life in a fog of pessimism and hate.

I don't live in any fog of pessimism or hate. I'm pretty optimistic and happy, but realistic.

antrobus wrote: »

I think you mean Occam's Razor.:)

Arkham is the asylum where the Joker gets imprisoned after he gets defeated by Batman.

Good point! It feels like we're talking about an asylum sometimes.

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

gfplux wrote: »

An annual 2,500 workers over the age of 18 will be granted six-month visas to come to Britain from next spring to work on fruit and vegetable farms, Home Secretary Sajid Javid and Environment Secretary Michael Gove said Thursday in a statement. .

Well I for one am highly impressed that Gove and Javid have surveyed every farm in the nation, consulted with weathermen, read the tea leaves in their cups, forecast the demand for crops and how many other workers will be available, and determined with precise accuracy a year in advance that the number of workers needed from outwith the EU will be exactly 2500.

I mean, gosh, that sure does beat the current (and obviously far too simple) system where farms just recruit the exact number of workers they need from the EU, as and when they need them....:(