First Parking PCN

nosferatu1001

WHy guess? It is written in POFA. PAra 8.

Umkomaas

The NtK is PoFA-compliant. The identity of the driver is irrelevant. The registered keeper can be held liable. The days between the date of the parking event and the date of issue of the NtK fall within the 29-57 limits of PoFA. Drop any reference to PoFA. 

Coupon-mad

But none of this means you have no case.  Most NTKs we see are POFA ones and most people win on unclear signs and/or other specific issues.

zipadee

Hi
Having placed a SAR request, I have now  received all the evidence and information they hold. There are two outstanding PCNs  The LOC from DCBL is for the first PCN.

Looking at the information sent, I notice that PPC only give the date and  time of the event. Is that the date and time of issuing a ticket ? Should they not provide evidence of time of entry and time of leaving. I suppose in this case there are no cameras that record this information so they just take pictures of the car registration number and windscreen with no parking permit as evidence. That said, surely the car could have been parked there for a few minutes (i.e.within some kind of grace period)  before it moved on. Is it just accepted that the person issuing the ticket waited long enough before issuing it ?

Thanks

zipadee

Also received the following email from DCBL

"We write further to your email dated 17th January 2021.

 DCB Legal Ltd note you mentioned you are seeking debt advice and have requested a Subject Access Request from our Client; however this does not affect your case with DCB Legal Ltd and our instructions to recover the outstanding balance. This matter will remain on hold until 21st February 2021. After this point to prevent legal proceedings the balance of £140.00 will be due.

 Payment can be made via bank transfer to our designated client account:-"

So I await the next step. So the balance due is now £140 according to email and in their LOC, the amount due is £160 !
I read on one of the threads that it might be a good idea to email DCBL (and PPC) to ask them how they can justify adding unreasonable admin costs and use their reply as part of defense. Must try and track down that thread again. 

Thanks

Coupon-mad

zipadee said:

Hi
Having placed a SAR request, I have now  received all the evidence and information they hold. There are two outstanding PCNs  The LOC from DCBL is for the first PCN.

Looking at the information sent, I notice that PPC only give the date and  time of the event. Is that the date and time of issuing a ticket ? Should they not provide evidence of time of entry and time of leaving. I suppose in this case there are no cameras that record this information so they just take pictures of the car registration number and windscreen with no parking permit as evidence. That said, surely the car could have been parked there for a few minutes (i.e.within some kind of grace period)  before it moved on. Is it just accepted that the person issuing the ticket waited long enough before issuing it ?

Yes that is always used as a defence point where a few photos are taken over a couple of minutes = no grace period allowed. It's a strong point because the driver could be loading or unloading, which is not parking.

I read on one of the threads that it might be a good idea to email DCBL (and PPC) to ask them how they can justify adding unreasonable admin costs and use their reply as part of defense. Must try and track down that thread again. 

OMG no,  DON'T do that pointless load of rubbish. 

I posted only TODAY how to respond to a DCBLegal LBC and make them shut up...there is a way.  No link given.

zipadee

Coupon-mad I've been looking through all the threads posted to today but cannot see the post you refer to regarding responding to a DCB legal LBC.  Apologies as I may have missed it but could you point me to the thread.

Thanks 

Coupon-mad

Look at my replies then, on my profile. 

D_P_Dance

. So the balance due is now £140 according to email and in their LOC, the amount due is £160 !

It is likely that neither is correct.  

D_P_Dance

OMG no,  DON'T do that pointless load of rubbish. 

IMO such a course is very sensible.