Con artists - "Approved Garages"

Joe_Horner

AndyMc..... wrote: »

I wasn't referring to Rotherham but as you mention it, there's Telford, Luton to name some more.

The common theme is Pakistani Muslims.

No, the common theme is controlling perverts.

The fact that the vast (white) majority of them tend to act either individually or in loose "sharing" groups at a distance rather than in local gangs (think internet !!!!!! rings) doesn't make it any better or worse either way.

You tend not to hear "an Anglo Saxon kiddy !!!!!! ring was smashed today" - you just hear about the ring being smashed - because we accept that race has nothing to do with it except where it's "another race".

AndyMc.....

Joe_Horner wrote: »

No, the common theme is controlling perverts.

The fact that the vast (white) majority of them tend to act either individually or in loose "sharing" groups at a distance rather than in local gangs (think internet !!!!!! rings) doesn't make it any better or worse either way.

You tend not to hear "an Anglo Saxon kiddy !!!!!! ring was smashed today" - you just hear about the ring being smashed - because we accept that race has nothing to do with it except where it's "another race".

The common theme is it's not talked about and we all know why.

silverwhistle

hucker wrote: »

I don't have any insurance at all for anything (except 3rd party car insurance to keep the pigs at bay). Insurance is a gamble, I don't gamble, I don't play the lottery either.

You've already said you don't agree with taxation for things like the NHS and don't do insurance so I take it you have sufficient resources to pay for major medical interventions, so that you can be true to your beliefs? You do seem to gamble though, not wearing a seat belt..


Not that anyone on here to the left of Ghengis Khan would want you to wear one mind..

Joe_Horner

AndyMc..... wrote: »

The common theme is it's not talked about and we all know why.

Yes, it's not talked about because, if you actually look at the statistics rather than the Daily Mail, it really isn't a factor.

Operation catherdral (probably the best known example) led to 8 arrests in this country, only one (Ahmed Ali) even sounds a little bit "foreign". Dismantling the Wonderland Club internationally led to over 100 arrests, almost all of them Caucasian men.

Similar patterns apply to most big operations, so why is no-one saying "you can see the common theme is clear, white men create and distribute kiddie !!!!!!"?


eta: And what about this gang of clearly (not) Pakistani Muslims?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/nov/26/cornwall-!!!!!phile-ring-men-jailed

Or this (individual but a HUGE number of victims) Cornish postman?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/sep/24/!!!!!phile-postman-jailed-500-children

You can see the pattern - why is no-one up in arms about the "common theme" of Cornishmen?

AndyMc.....

Joe_Horner wrote: »

Yes, it's not talked about because, if you actually look at the statistics rather than the Daily Mail, it really isn't a factor.

Operation catherdral (probably the best known example) led to 8 arrests in this country, only one (Ahmed Ali) even sounds a little bit "foreign". Dismantling the Wonderland Club internationally led to over 100 arrests, almost all of them Caucasian men.

Similar patterns apply to most big operations, so why is no-one saying "you can see the common theme is clear, white men create and distribute kiddie !!!!!!"?


eta: And what about this gang of clearly (not) Pakistani Muslims?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/nov/26/cornwall-!!!!!phile-ring-men-jailed

Or this (individual but a HUGE number of victims) Cornish postman?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/sep/24/!!!!!phile-postman-jailed-500-children

You can see the pattern - why is no-one up in arms about the "common theme" of Cornishmen?

I see the pattern, your links don't work. :rotfl:

Joe_Horner

AndyMc..... wrote: »

I see the pattern, your links don't work. :rotfl:

It seems that MSE software filters out part of the word #~!0phile which has messed up the links.

And, yes, coming from Devon, I can see the "Cornish pattern" too. There were 3 generations of one family jailed back in the late 90s for "keeping it in the family" - to much completely inappropriate hilarity for us across the river - but it doesn't make national outrage headlines like others do, which is kinda my point


eta: Of course, to be completely fair we should include Norfolk as well:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/28/norwich-!!!!!phile-ring-marie-black-jailed-life

Marie, Michael, Jason and Carol - how very Pakistani!

Or this gang - not a Muslim among them (they even abused a new born baby !!!!!!!):

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-34219235

wgl2014

This seems to have wandered away from talking about overpriced air filters!

mollycat

My attention started to wander when he lectured us on the arrangements between ASDA and the farmer when buying milk.

Troll thread that was entertaining till OP went too far.

AndyMc.....

Joe_Horner wrote: »

It seems that MSE software filters out part of the word #~!0phile which has messed up the links.

And, yes, coming from Devon, I can see the "Cornish pattern" too. There were 3 generations of one family jailed back in the late 90s for "keeping it in the family" - to much completely inappropriate hilarity for us across the river - but it doesn't make national outrage headlines like others do, which is kinda my point


eta: Of course, to be completely fair we should include Norfolk as well:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/28/norwich-!!!!!phile-ring-marie-black-jailed-life

Marie, Michael, Jason and Carol - how very Pakistani!

Or this gang - not a Muslim among them (they even abused a new born baby !!!!!!!):

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-34219235

But you accept that Rotherham, Telford and Luton are.

Nasqueron

AndyMc..... wrote: »

Why doesn't anyone acknowledge the abuse by Muslim gangs?

What exactly do you mean by that?


The press is full of the stories
The people doing it are caught, identified and jailed

AndyMc..... wrote: »

But you accept that Rotherham, Telford and Luton are.

These are talked about, you know of them as they're in the press, QED you're wrong, they clearly are talked about. If you mean why don't we lock up all Muslims or why don't we assume all abusers are Muslims - it's because they aren't


We know for a fact there has been widespread abuse by Catholic church members, for decades the abusers were sheltered or moved around to prevent arrest. Do we say all Catholics are abusers or assume any abuse is by Catholics?



A study in Australia looked at all abuse by perpetrator, only 11.1% of victims were attacked by a stranger (the sort of gang abuse you are talking about). Almost 3x as many abusers (30.2%) were the child's father or step-father, 16.3% by a family friend, 15.6% an acquaintance or neighbour, 15.3% another person known to the child - 77.4% of abusers were not strangers.


Focus your attention on high profile gang abusers and the vast majority of victims will not be helped.



https://aic.gov.au/publications/tandi/tandi429