Debt Collectors (DRP & ZZPS) What they don't want you to know

My_name_is

I received a fine for £60 from NCP then followed by £100 fine and now 2wks later a letter from Teacw demanding £160. I have sent a letter via email to NCP appealing against their notice. Any heads up will be appreciated please.

My_name_is

Letter from Trace debt recover

Coupon-mad

Just ignore debt collectors;  I assume Teacw is a typo!  Not sure what else you need to know. 

OBVIOUSLY THE NEWBIES TRHEAD TELLS YOU HOW TO DEFEND ANY COURT CLAIM AND LIKELY WIN.

And this weekend: An urgent task – deadline is MONDAY!

Please now make a real difference because not enough people have yet, and time is running out. 

The Government is consulting for just a few more days, about a new statutory code of practice (CoP) and framework intended to rein in the rogue parking firms. 

Does it go far enough?  Read and comment on the draft CoP proposal and the enforcement framework consultation (two separate consultation documents).

HOW TO DO THE SUBMISSIONS:

BSI PAS 232 – COMMENTING ON THE CODE OF PRACTICE AS DRAFTED :

1.    You will need to register then log in, to comment on the CoP and enter an occupation even if you are retired or a homemaker.  

 

2.    Register, log into the BSI page, and download & read the cover letter here:

https://standardsdevelopment.bsigroup.com/projects/2020-00193#/section

 

3.    Read the cover letter again and note the suggested extra questions... if you agree that, say, the 'loading/unloading and dropping off, asking for directions, and disabled people parking on double yellows as they can on street' activities listed should be exempt (not parking events, what do you think?) then please go to the Annexes at the end of the PAS Code and find the one about Exempt Vehicles and state what other activity you think should be added to the exempt list. 

 

4.    Download the PAS itself and start commenting on what you wish to say something about.  Quick links to each section appear on the left of your page. 

 

You don’t have to comment on everything, e.g. you might want to skip the definitions and focus on later sections, and certainly look at the Annex tables at the end that show things like consideration & grace periods and exemptions.

 

5.    Submit comments when you are happy with them. Don’t just ‘SAVE’ and forget!

 

THAT IS HALF THE JOB DONE!

THE MHCLG CONSULTATION IS EASIER AS IT IS JUST A LIST OF QUESTIONS. 

 

6.    You can do it first if preferred or pushed for time:

https://forms.office.com/Pages/ResponsePage.aspx?id=EGg0v32c3kOociSi7zmVqAVPfAOtwRxLhHRwQ610oElUMzhQSVo0WUQ4SERVSEZaUU9DTUhFQ1VMUy4u

If your answers exceed 4000 characters (approx. 500 words to a single question or 16000 words (approx. 2500 words) for all the questions below, you can email your answers to parking@communities.gov.uk as long as you state who you are.

 

 

THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS YOU WILL SEE, FOR RESPONSES TO THE FRAMEWORK:

Q1 Do you agree or disagree that members of APAs should be required to use a single appeals service appointed by the Secretary of State?

Strongly agree/Somewhat agree/Neither agree nor disagree/Somewhat disagree/Strongly disagree

 

Q1.1 Please explain your answer

(free text)

 

 

Q2 Please provide any other feedback on the determination of appeals, including the funding model and features that an appeal service should offer e.g. telephone or in-person hearings, the ability to submit evidence online

(free text)

 

Q3 Please provide any comments you have on the proposal to enforce the Code by combining the ATA’s existing audit procedures with additional safeguards.

(free text)

 

Q4 Please outline any alternative means by which the Code could be monitored and enforced. You may wish to cite evidence from other regulatory frameworks which are relevant.

(free text)

 

Q5 Please provide any feedback you have on the proposed governance arrangements for monitoring the new Code of Practice

(free text)

 

Q6 Which parking charge system is most appropriate for private parking?

 a) the Three-tiered system

 b) Mirroring the Local Authority system

(free text)

 

 Q6.1 Please explain your answer. You may, for example, wish to make reference to other deterrent frameworks (for example, for railway tickets or traffic violations)

(free text)

 

 

Q7 What level of discount is appropriate:

40% as is currently offered in private parking and suggested in the three-tiered system, or

50% as is offered in Local Authority parking?

a) 40%

b) 50%

 

Q7.1 Please explain your answer, including whether the discount should be set at a different level

(free text)

 

 

 Q8 How should the level of parking charges be set and how should the levels be revised in future?

(free text)

 

 

Q9 Do you agree or disagree in principle with the idea of the Appeals Charter?

Agree/Disagree

 

Q9.1 Please explain your answer

(free text)

 

 

Q10 Do you agree or not that the examples given in the Appeals Charter are fair and appropriate? Agree/Disagree

 

Q10.1 Please explain your answer.

You may wish, for example, to suggest additional cases to be covered in an Appeals Charter or query existing examples.

(free text)

 

Q11 Do you agree or disagree that the parking industry should contribute towards the cost of the regulation?

Agree/Disagree

 

Q11.1 Please explain your answer.

(free text)

 

YOU CAN INSTEAD GIVE MORE CONCISE ANSWERS ONLINE, USING THE MHCLG PAGE LINK.

Don’t forget that answering these questions is the easier bit…

Looking at the BSI PAS (the draft code of practice itself) involves logging in and submitting comments again, and again and again and takes more time!

There is a discussion about PAS submissions and what the pages look like, here:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6195417/am-i-doing-something-wrong/p1

 

Le_Kirk

My_name_is said:

I received a fine for £60 from NCP then followed by £100 fine and now 2wks later a letter from Teacw demanding £160. I have sent a letter via email to NCP appealing against their notice. Any heads up will be appreciated please.

My_name_is said:

Letter from Trace debt recover

This is a discussion thread and is not for posting your own queries.  Do as suggested by @Coupon-mad, read the NEWBIE sticky, then start your own thread where you will receive bespoke advice.  Once you have done that please make sure you complete the Government consultation, as requested by @Coupon-mad.  You are in a perfect place to comment on the process as you are going through it right now.

D_P_Dance

IT IS NOT A FINE

LeifMR

Hi, hopefully someone can offer some advice. 
And yes , I've read the thread but couldn't find anything specific to my case other than 'ignore debt collectors'.

I was issues a PCN in January from PCP enforcement at a hospital. 
Charge was for mot displaying a ticket (in actual fact I did have one).

I appealed this charge and was SUCCESSFUL,  I have the emails to back this up.

However I have since received further notices to pay the fine and now, some 6 months later,  have received a debt recovery letter from TRACE.

Now I'm not sure what to do, obviously it is intimidating but I've already successfully appealed the PCN so why are they still sending me letters? 

What do I do?
(Note there is no contact info for PCP enforcement)


Thank you

beamerguy

LeifMR said:

Hi, hopefully someone can offer some advice. 
And yes , I've read the thread but couldn't find anything specific to my case other than 'ignore debt collectors'.

I was issues a PCN in January from PCP enforcement at a hospital. 
Charge was for mot displaying a ticket (in actual fact I did have one).

I appealed this charge and was SUCCESSFUL,  I have the emails to back this up.

However I have since received further notices to pay the fine and now, some 6 months later,  have received a debt recovery letter from TRACE.

Now I'm not sure what to do, obviously it is intimidating but I've already successfully appealed the PCN so why are they still sending me letters? 

What do I do?
(Note there is no contact info for PCP enforcement)


Thank you

PCP enforcement clearly have poor record keeping.

Are you 100% certain it is for the same ticket that was cancelled.

Trace are a meaningless debt collector you can ignore. Or if you wish, you can send a copy of the cancellation to TRACE and tell them to take a hike