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Debt Collectors (DRP & ZZPS) What they don't want you to know
beamerguy
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TAKE NO NOTICE OF BRAIN DEAD DEBT COLLECTORS WITH NO POWER
THEY COME FROM THE SEWERS, TREAT THEM AS THE LOW LIFE THEY ARE.
NEVER CONTACT THEM ...... LET THE IDIOTS WASTE THEIR TIME
STOP TALKING TO ANY DEBT COLLECTORS
They are just angry dogs chasing their tails
NO POWER
WHO YOU ARE DEALING WITH ......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCFzv_ctsAI
Debt Collectors (DRP & ZZPS & Zenith)
What they don't want you to know
===================================
WARNING (November 2018) Thanks to Castle
Whilst being warned NEVER to contact DRP and other
debt collectors, some have fallen into the trap.
You will be pressurised into paying an amount you
probably don't owe by giving a full payment or by monthly
installments.
You will be told that if you do not pay, you will go to
court, you will get a CCJ, your credit rating will be damaged
meaning you cannot get loans etc etc.
These scare tactics are just that .. scare tactics. But is
DRP acting legally ???
MISLEADING AND AGGRESSIVE COMMERCIAL PRACTICES
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/721872/misleading-aggressive-commercial-practices-guidance.pdf
Part 1: Liability for misleading and aggressive
practices
The 2008 Regulations make misleading actions unlawful
(see regulation 5). An action by a trader is misleading if it
contains false information or if it is likely to mislead
the average consumer in its overall presentation.
Consumer payments and “civil recovery”
The Regulations amend the definition of a “transactional decision”
to expressly cover demands for payment from a consumer in full
or partial settlement of the consumer’s liabilities or purported
liabilities to the trader (see reg 2(1A) of the 2008 Regulations).
This means that misleading and aggressive practices in respect of
such demands would now clearly lead to both criminal sanctions
(under the 2008 Regulations)
===================================
WERE YOU PUT UNDER MISLEADING PRESSURE ???
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/721872/misleading-aggressive-commercial-practices-guidance.pdf
===================================
ALL DEBT COLLECTORS INVOLVED IN THE PRIVATE
PARKING INDUSTRY ARE TIMEWASTERS TO IGNORE
===================================
NEVER CONTACT - NEVER PAY DEBT COLLECTORS
===================================
THE £60 SCAM OPERATED BY DRP ?
If you get a letter from DRP for £160 it's because they
tell parking companies that their fees will be added
to the parking charge. However they also tell PPC's
"We offer a ‘no collection, no fee service"
This simply means that if you do not pay and they
do not collect the service is FREE to the PPC.
THE DRP SITE
http://www.debtrecoveryplus.co.uk/pcn-collection/
(Just in case DRP decide to remove this link there is
a screenshot available to show a court)
=================================
The screenshot of the DRP .. "no win no fee" is here
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6014081/abuse-of-process-district-judge-tells-bwlegal&page=9
POST # 178
=================================
As DRP cannot take you to court, they pass it back
to the PPC and they also pass back the £60 WHICH
IS FAKE if they did not collect from you.
The PPC then passes this to a dodgy legal who in
turn add the £60 but now they claim it's an admin
fee or a contractual charge.
AS you did not pay DRP, there is no £60 because they
failed to collect so it's .. ‘no collection, no fee service"
THIS IS THE DRP SCAM
DRP ARE MEMBERS OF THE BPA SO THIS SCAM IS
APPROVED BY THE BPA
===================================
Are dodgy legals trying to extort money from you ?
If so contact your MP to complain about this extortion.
Ask your MP to read this ....
https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2018-07-19/debates/2b90805c-bff8-4707-8bdc-b0bfae5a7ad5/Parking(CodeOfPractice)Bill(FirstSitting
===================================
DRP are members of the BPA (Not as a parking operator)
Why does Steve Clark of the BPA allow this member to
tell lies to the motorist ????????
Troubled by BPA LIARS ? Steve Clark aos@britishparking.co.uk
OR .. steve.c@britishparking.co.uk
===================================
LIVE IN SCOTLAND ???? there is a new wheeze by
Parking Eye using Stirling Park Debt Collectors
IGNORE, don't fall into the trap, PE think you are
a mug but they need to know who was the driver ?
THAT IS YOUR SECRET and none of their business
==================================
Another of these debt collectors who add on a fake £60
is Direct Collection Bailiffs Limited. IGNORE THEM
Same advise as with every debt collector who join
in the great parking scam
==================================
Debt collector letters can send a shiver down your spine
with wild threats of County Court Judgements, Bailiffs,
seizing your goods, your credit rating will be affected
with a CCJ, will not be able to get loans etc etc ??
Sounds crazy over a silly parking Ticket for £100 and
if it all sounds like rubbish ...... IT IS
WHAT THEY DON'T WANT YOU KNOW ...
SIMPLE .... In the private parking industry
they are 100% powerless and have no clout whatsoever.
***THAT'S WHY YOU MUST IGNORE THEM
***THEY CANNOT TAKE YOU TO COURT
***THEY CANNOT CARRY OUT THEIR FAKE THREATS
IMPORTANT .... NO THUGS WILL CALL AT YOUR HOME
====================================
This applies to ALL Debt collectors who try to dip their
toes into your private life.
Another is TRACE Debt Recovery UK
Then we have DCBL, the soap on TV, Can't pay
we'll take it away. DCBL dip their toes into private parking
scams and act as debt collectors and with their TV reputation
it's all designed to scare you.
"Can't pay we'll take it away" is all about cases that have
gone to court already and people have ignored.
Getting a debt collector letter from DCBL is just that, a debt
collectors letter and as such their power vanishes just like
the rest of them ..... it's never been to court SO GET WISE
====================================
Moorcroft in their debt collector mode threaten
door step collection from one of their agents.
They are not allowed to do this unless instructed by a court.
Simply tell them to cease otherwise you will call the police to
remove then
====================================
Equita. (As explained by Umkomaas)
Equita are debt collectors and should be ignored
(see NEWBIES FAQ sticky, post #4). They are a sister
company to PE and from what we've seen over many
months, PE farm out 'debts' to them where they are unable
(contract principal won't allow) or are on too thin ice to
proceed to court.
Rest assured, if PE had a strong enough case, court papers
would have been served by now.
====================================
Currently there are 2 prolific debt collectors who
operate in the parking industry and they are DRP & ZZPS.
Others pop in and out .... mainly out when they realise
there is no money to be made because they are powerless
====================================
BEAVIS v PARKING EYE in the Supreme Court
Often, these powerless debt collectors make reference
to the Parking Eye/Supreme court case ? They seem to
think that this is the key for them to extort money from
you.
Barry Beavis took Parking Eye to court because he claimed
the charges were unfair. The court said they were ... and
that was it. So unless you are claiming that the charge
was unfair, the Supreme court decision has no bearing
on you and it's yet more rubbish that debt crawlers use
====================================
These letters are very intimidating and scary.
These letters misinterpret the facts and so if you receive
these letters from DRP and ZZPS, you must complain
to your Trading Standards .... send them a copy.
PLUS REMEMBER ..... YOU IGNORE THEM
Of late we have seen a spate of Debt Collector PLUS
letters. This now involves solicitor headed paper which
at first sight could wrongly be interpreted as a legal letter
but ..... read the wording.... words such as "may" now come
into play and if you are asked to pay to a third party
such as DRP, you will know this is just another debt collector
letter .... AGAIN, TO BE IGNORED
These second generation debt collector letters will no
doubt use the same threats and again such letters should
be sent to your local Trading Standards
Currently there are 3 solicitors who use these tactics
and they are
GLADSTONES SOLICITORS
WRIGHT HASSALL / QDR (same company)
BWLegal dip in their toes ... not very well
In a nutshell, these solicitors are pimping out
their letterheads .... this is highly Incestuous
So, looking through the lies and fabrications they make,
here are the facts for you to understand
The CCJ Myth and threats and lies told by debt collectors and PPC's .. EXPOSED
READ THIS AND COMPARE TO THE LIES YOU ARE TOLD
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5849106/the-ccj-myth-and-threats-and-lies-told-by-debt-collectors-and-ppcs-exposed&highlight=ccj+the+myth
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU IGNORE DEBT COLLECTORS ?
Well, they have wasted their time and they are left with
telling the PPC they have failed and it's passed back
to the PPC who may or may not take it to court
Most PPC's will pass this to a solicitor
The 4 main contenders who operate within the scam
industry are ,,,
***GLADSTONES
***BWLegal
***QDR .. AKA Wright Hassall
***SCS LAW
Others have dipped their toes into this hot water and failed
Why only 4 active legals ?
We can only assume that out of the 1000's of legals
throughout the UK, no one else would get involved
because let's face it, the cost to collect £100 far outweighs
the amount of the debt itself.
No logic but each to their own ?
Once you have ignored and got past the silly debt collector
rubbish there is now a new legal procedure that these
solicitors/legals must comply with ....
Debt Recovery under the new Pre-Action Protocol for debt claims
You must receive a LETTER BEFORE CLAIM (LBC)
The legal must provide you with proof of their claim
and then give you 30 days to respond
If you receive a letter giving you 14 days to respond,
that is illegal
THIS WILL NOT COME FROM A DEBT COLLECTOR
because they are powerless to do so.
===================================
And if you think that very dodgy debt collectors are
adding on fake charges, be warned that the even more
dodgy legals will try to add on even more dodgy charges.
Here is a recent case in Southampton where a judge
ruled .... THIS IS CEL
" Before District Judge Grand sitting at the County Court of Southampton, London Road, Southampton SO15 2XQ.
Of the Court's Own Initiative
IT IS ORDERED THAT
1. The claim is struck out for an abuse of process
Reasons:
the claim is based on an alleged contractual parking charge of £100. The amount claimed on the claim form is £253.22 and on particulars of the claim £328.22. This inflation of the considered amount is a gross abuse of process."
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5746246/ccj-issued-from-a-parking-fine-i-had-no-idea-about&page=2
POST #28
===================================
The information above refers to Debt Collectors involved
in the private parking industry.
This information is not applicable to debt collectors
involved in the financial industry or any debts outside of
the private parking industry
===================================
After reading this thread and you wish to tell your story
YOU MUST START YOUR OWN THREAD TO RECEIVE REPLIES
THEY COME FROM THE SEWERS, TREAT THEM AS THE LOW LIFE THEY ARE.
NEVER CONTACT THEM ...... LET THE IDIOTS WASTE THEIR TIME
STOP TALKING TO ANY DEBT COLLECTORS
They are just angry dogs chasing their tails
NO POWER
WHO YOU ARE DEALING WITH ......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCFzv_ctsAI
Debt Collectors (DRP & ZZPS & Zenith)
What they don't want you to know
===================================
WARNING (November 2018) Thanks to Castle
Whilst being warned NEVER to contact DRP and other
debt collectors, some have fallen into the trap.
You will be pressurised into paying an amount you
probably don't owe by giving a full payment or by monthly
installments.
You will be told that if you do not pay, you will go to
court, you will get a CCJ, your credit rating will be damaged
meaning you cannot get loans etc etc.
These scare tactics are just that .. scare tactics. But is
DRP acting legally ???
MISLEADING AND AGGRESSIVE COMMERCIAL PRACTICES
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/721872/misleading-aggressive-commercial-practices-guidance.pdf
Part 1: Liability for misleading and aggressive
practices
The 2008 Regulations make misleading actions unlawful
(see regulation 5). An action by a trader is misleading if it
contains false information or if it is likely to mislead
the average consumer in its overall presentation.
Consumer payments and “civil recovery”
The Regulations amend the definition of a “transactional decision”
to expressly cover demands for payment from a consumer in full
or partial settlement of the consumer’s liabilities or purported
liabilities to the trader (see reg 2(1A) of the 2008 Regulations).
This means that misleading and aggressive practices in respect of
such demands would now clearly lead to both criminal sanctions
(under the 2008 Regulations)
===================================
WERE YOU PUT UNDER MISLEADING PRESSURE ???
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/721872/misleading-aggressive-commercial-practices-guidance.pdf
===================================
ALL DEBT COLLECTORS INVOLVED IN THE PRIVATE
PARKING INDUSTRY ARE TIMEWASTERS TO IGNORE
===================================
NEVER CONTACT - NEVER PAY DEBT COLLECTORS
===================================
THE £60 SCAM OPERATED BY DRP ?
If you get a letter from DRP for £160 it's because they
tell parking companies that their fees will be added
to the parking charge. However they also tell PPC's
"We offer a ‘no collection, no fee service"
This simply means that if you do not pay and they
do not collect the service is FREE to the PPC.
THE DRP SITE
http://www.debtrecoveryplus.co.uk/pcn-collection/
(Just in case DRP decide to remove this link there is
a screenshot available to show a court)
=================================
The screenshot of the DRP .. "no win no fee" is here
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6014081/abuse-of-process-district-judge-tells-bwlegal&page=9
POST # 178
=================================
As DRP cannot take you to court, they pass it back
to the PPC and they also pass back the £60 WHICH
IS FAKE if they did not collect from you.
The PPC then passes this to a dodgy legal who in
turn add the £60 but now they claim it's an admin
fee or a contractual charge.
AS you did not pay DRP, there is no £60 because they
failed to collect so it's .. ‘no collection, no fee service"
THIS IS THE DRP SCAM
DRP ARE MEMBERS OF THE BPA SO THIS SCAM IS
APPROVED BY THE BPA
===================================
Are dodgy legals trying to extort money from you ?
If so contact your MP to complain about this extortion.
Ask your MP to read this ....
https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2018-07-19/debates/2b90805c-bff8-4707-8bdc-b0bfae5a7ad5/Parking(CodeOfPractice)Bill(FirstSitting
===================================
DRP are members of the BPA (Not as a parking operator)
Why does Steve Clark of the BPA allow this member to
tell lies to the motorist ????????
Troubled by BPA LIARS ? Steve Clark aos@britishparking.co.uk
OR .. steve.c@britishparking.co.uk
===================================
LIVE IN SCOTLAND ???? there is a new wheeze by
Parking Eye using Stirling Park Debt Collectors
IGNORE, don't fall into the trap, PE think you are
a mug but they need to know who was the driver ?
THAT IS YOUR SECRET and none of their business
==================================
Another of these debt collectors who add on a fake £60
is Direct Collection Bailiffs Limited. IGNORE THEM
Same advise as with every debt collector who join
in the great parking scam
==================================
Debt collector letters can send a shiver down your spine
with wild threats of County Court Judgements, Bailiffs,
seizing your goods, your credit rating will be affected
with a CCJ, will not be able to get loans etc etc ??
Sounds crazy over a silly parking Ticket for £100 and
if it all sounds like rubbish ...... IT IS
WHAT THEY DON'T WANT YOU KNOW ...
SIMPLE .... In the private parking industry
they are 100% powerless and have no clout whatsoever.
***THAT'S WHY YOU MUST IGNORE THEM
***THEY CANNOT TAKE YOU TO COURT
***THEY CANNOT CARRY OUT THEIR FAKE THREATS
IMPORTANT .... NO THUGS WILL CALL AT YOUR HOME
====================================
This applies to ALL Debt collectors who try to dip their
toes into your private life.
Another is TRACE Debt Recovery UK
Then we have DCBL, the soap on TV, Can't pay
we'll take it away. DCBL dip their toes into private parking
scams and act as debt collectors and with their TV reputation
it's all designed to scare you.
"Can't pay we'll take it away" is all about cases that have
gone to court already and people have ignored.
Getting a debt collector letter from DCBL is just that, a debt
collectors letter and as such their power vanishes just like
the rest of them ..... it's never been to court SO GET WISE
====================================
Moorcroft in their debt collector mode threaten
door step collection from one of their agents.
They are not allowed to do this unless instructed by a court.
Simply tell them to cease otherwise you will call the police to
remove then
====================================
Equita. (As explained by Umkomaas)
Equita are debt collectors and should be ignored
(see NEWBIES FAQ sticky, post #4). They are a sister
company to PE and from what we've seen over many
months, PE farm out 'debts' to them where they are unable
(contract principal won't allow) or are on too thin ice to
proceed to court.
Rest assured, if PE had a strong enough case, court papers
would have been served by now.
====================================
Currently there are 2 prolific debt collectors who
operate in the parking industry and they are DRP & ZZPS.
Others pop in and out .... mainly out when they realise
there is no money to be made because they are powerless
====================================
BEAVIS v PARKING EYE in the Supreme Court
Often, these powerless debt collectors make reference
to the Parking Eye/Supreme court case ? They seem to
think that this is the key for them to extort money from
you.
Barry Beavis took Parking Eye to court because he claimed
the charges were unfair. The court said they were ... and
that was it. So unless you are claiming that the charge
was unfair, the Supreme court decision has no bearing
on you and it's yet more rubbish that debt crawlers use
====================================
These letters are very intimidating and scary.
These letters misinterpret the facts and so if you receive
these letters from DRP and ZZPS, you must complain
to your Trading Standards .... send them a copy.
PLUS REMEMBER ..... YOU IGNORE THEM
Of late we have seen a spate of Debt Collector PLUS
letters. This now involves solicitor headed paper which
at first sight could wrongly be interpreted as a legal letter
but ..... read the wording.... words such as "may" now come
into play and if you are asked to pay to a third party
such as DRP, you will know this is just another debt collector
letter .... AGAIN, TO BE IGNORED
These second generation debt collector letters will no
doubt use the same threats and again such letters should
be sent to your local Trading Standards
Currently there are 3 solicitors who use these tactics
and they are
GLADSTONES SOLICITORS
WRIGHT HASSALL / QDR (same company)
BWLegal dip in their toes ... not very well
In a nutshell, these solicitors are pimping out
their letterheads .... this is highly Incestuous
So, looking through the lies and fabrications they make,
here are the facts for you to understand
The CCJ Myth and threats and lies told by debt collectors and PPC's .. EXPOSED
READ THIS AND COMPARE TO THE LIES YOU ARE TOLD
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5849106/the-ccj-myth-and-threats-and-lies-told-by-debt-collectors-and-ppcs-exposed&highlight=ccj+the+myth
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU IGNORE DEBT COLLECTORS ?
Well, they have wasted their time and they are left with
telling the PPC they have failed and it's passed back
to the PPC who may or may not take it to court
Most PPC's will pass this to a solicitor
The 4 main contenders who operate within the scam
industry are ,,,
***GLADSTONES
***BWLegal
***QDR .. AKA Wright Hassall
***SCS LAW
Others have dipped their toes into this hot water and failed
Why only 4 active legals ?
We can only assume that out of the 1000's of legals
throughout the UK, no one else would get involved
because let's face it, the cost to collect £100 far outweighs
the amount of the debt itself.
No logic but each to their own ?
Once you have ignored and got past the silly debt collector
rubbish there is now a new legal procedure that these
solicitors/legals must comply with ....
Debt Recovery under the new Pre-Action Protocol for debt claims
You must receive a LETTER BEFORE CLAIM (LBC)
The legal must provide you with proof of their claim
and then give you 30 days to respond
If you receive a letter giving you 14 days to respond,
that is illegal
THIS WILL NOT COME FROM A DEBT COLLECTOR
because they are powerless to do so.
===================================
And if you think that very dodgy debt collectors are
adding on fake charges, be warned that the even more
dodgy legals will try to add on even more dodgy charges.
Here is a recent case in Southampton where a judge
ruled .... THIS IS CEL
" Before District Judge Grand sitting at the County Court of Southampton, London Road, Southampton SO15 2XQ.
Of the Court's Own Initiative
IT IS ORDERED THAT
1. The claim is struck out for an abuse of process
Reasons:
the claim is based on an alleged contractual parking charge of £100. The amount claimed on the claim form is £253.22 and on particulars of the claim £328.22. This inflation of the considered amount is a gross abuse of process."
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5746246/ccj-issued-from-a-parking-fine-i-had-no-idea-about&page=2
POST #28
===================================
The information above refers to Debt Collectors involved
in the private parking industry.
This information is not applicable to debt collectors
involved in the financial industry or any debts outside of
the private parking industry
===================================
After reading this thread and you wish to tell your story
YOU MUST START YOUR OWN THREAD TO RECEIVE REPLIES
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ignore debt crawlers
pointless, powerless timewasters1 -
More debt crawlers sending out rubbish1
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Good information BeamerguyPPCs say its carpark management, BPA say its raising standards..... we all know its just about raking in the revenue. :eek:1
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just a reminder0
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Don't be scammed by debt collectors0
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Hello, Im new here
Please help me with this scammers
Martin.
I received another letter from QDR for drop off charge of Luton airport. They have now written to scare me:
I have to pay 160 £ (not 60 £ as before)
from the case to the court, etc.
I'm sorry but I can not add a photo.
What can I do now?0 -
Search the forum for QDR and ignore them.
Don't post on this thread please.
See my signature below for where to click to get to page one of the forum.PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD0 -
Ignore low life debt collectors0
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bouncing up .... the retards are active again0
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Read above, PE are using Stirling Park Debt Collectors
in Scotland
Don't get mugged0
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