Brexit discussions

Mum_of_1

NewShadow wrote: »

I'd like to formally ask the team to consider vivatifosi's proposal to set a minimum number of posts or a minimum length of membership before new users can see/post on DT.

It makes a complete farce of the work of the mods for someone to be PPR'd then immediately make a new account for the purposes of continuing to break the forum rules.

Making it so users have to have been members of the site for - say - a month and have made 100 posts or have gained 100 thanks before being able to access the discussion forums would mean it would be much more difficult for 'professional agitators' to cause trouble.

The functionality exists - as demonstrated by MSE Labs - and I think it would decrease the work required by the team on these fora.

Additionally, one of the issues raised in the OP is the number of reports which are made which are not in breach of the forum rules - therefore I would also like mods to consider if there would be benefit to punishing false/vexatious reporting with the same three strike system as for other rule breaches.

If a user habitually reports other users who are not in violation of the rules of the site they are either doing it maliciously or do not understand the site rules - two warnings give ample opportunity to read the rules or to seek clarity via the site feedback area and a third strike to ban the user shows the team do not appreciate it's time being wasted.

I've been reading other threads in this "Site Feedback" bit.

Although what you suggest sounds reasonable, given that MSE seem unable to implement solutions to what seem to be longstanding problems like page format glitches ("Apostrophe problems") and copy/paste glitches as well as the grumblings about disappearing posts and threads, I really wouldn't hold out much hope.
Of an answer even, never mind a solution.

I'm forming the opinion that the forum area really is more of a hindrance to MSE than anything else and (as has been suggested) only continues to exist so that MSE can boast of vast numbers of registered users.

NewShadow

Mum_of_1 wrote: »

I've been reading other threads in this "Site Feedback" bit.

Although what you suggest sounds reasonable, given that MSE seem unable to implement solutions to what seem to be longstanding problems like page format glitches ("Apostrophe problems") and copy/paste glitches as well as the grumblings about disappearing posts and threads, I really wouldn't hold out much hope.
Of an answer even, never mind a solution.

I'm forming the opinion that the forum area really is more of a hindrance to MSE than anything else and (as has been suggested) only continues to exist so that MSE can boast of vast numbers of registered users.

The area is certainly an annoyance - but if we didn't have it then there's a significant risk that every other area of the site would be swamped by distracting political discourse.

At least now we can keep them where we can see them :cool:

Mum_of_1

NewShadow wrote: »

The area is certainly an annoyance - but if we didn't have it then there's a significant risk that every other area of the site would be swamped by distracting political discourse.

At least now we can keep them where we can see them :cool:

Maybe the answer lays in what you just said?
Instead of Brexit, BoJo/Mogg/Corbyn/Abbot and Labour/Tory threads in DT and elsewhere, why not have an "All things political" or somesuch heading?
Then everything related to "distracting political discourse" is in one place and - rather than disappearing threads - discussions falling foul of other headings could be moved there.
A suitable warning/advice header in the thread regarding content should do the job of making clear what is acceptable and what is not.

I still think I'm more likely to see unicorns in my garden that I am to see a logical solution in MSE, sadly.

David_Aston

Could I just point out that this is a subject of such importance, perhaps the moderators should just let us run amok!
After all, it will also be their futures, and their kids, badly set back.
How can us remainers not keep at it?

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fibonarchie

David_Aston wrote: »

How can us remainers not keep at it?

Remoaners you mean




But I don't know what happened to the thread, it either got closed, deleted or moved?

NewShadow

Here you go

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5857666/brexit-discussions

You'll want to skip to the last few pages

Graham_Devon

Think we are only allowed to sing come-by-ahh with each other now aren't we?

Strange thing is, this insistance on removing threads just grows anger. I completely get that MSE doesn't want to get sued - but that surely shows the issues we face right now, if silencing people is now the preferred method of controlling a bunch of people.

Spidernick

fibonarchie wrote: »

Remoaners you mean

Comments like that are one reason it got closed! :wall: