Prepping for Brexit thread

Blue_Doggy

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

Sensible though it is to buy in stocks of things that may be necessary and having the meds to stay well and equipment that makes life more comfortablein adverse times....

For some people, meds and equipment are a matter of life or death, not a lifestyle choice.

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

What we may find is that the life of ease and plenty isn't quite so readily available as it has been and people will be very discontented with a less comfortable life with less choices than we're used to. We may all of us have to readjust our expectations and accept that things will be starker and less materially comfortable for the foreseeable future.

I wonder if we will find it has been worthwhile to put stones in our shoes and walk away from peace and plenty. What you describe sounds like a punishment regime.

unrecordings

This is such an all encompassing thread now, i think it's beginning to get confused & out of sync IMHO

zaxdog

Just did a big shop for under £40. Freezer and press are now full.

We wait with baited breath for the outcome of the English vote...…….we voted to stay :mad:

[Deleted User]

We're here in this position with seemingly no way of changing things at this precise moment in time and it's not solely my fault that we're where we are. Meds and the outcome of talks in the EU are out of my control, I sympathise with those having problems but I cannot change anything. All I try to do in my posts is make things feel just a little more positive at a time of great unease, if people don't like what I post there is a fantastic ignore facility on these boards, please feel free to use it!

fuddle

No, meds aren't a lifestyle choice for some. I'm one of those people who will deteriorate slowly to death without instead of easing to wellness and remission, of sorts, with, but I do see how, as an economy based on people spending, we have become a society of easy come, easy go, fast this, chuck that, spend even if we haven't go it, we wants it, we needs it and on and on. I feel society is flippant, entitled and not at all mindful of what we're doing.

It takes an absolute rock bottom episode in a person's life to give their lives a huge big shake up and begin a journey of make do and mend, appreciation and simplicity. I know MrsLurcherwalker very well and I can tell you that she too shares a similar journey and knows that life is very peaceful and wholly fulfilling when we're careful and mindful of what we're consuming.

euronorris

Had a busy weekend, and still didn't get nearly enough stuff done. But, I did have a lovely evening over at the neighbours on Friday night (nice and frugal), 2 lie-ins (wahoo! A miracle these days), and decluttered some un needed stuff from the house.


Sold a gummy maker machine that I bought in the January sales from Aldi. Never used it. How pointless was that?! Luckily, managed to sell it on for the same price I purchased it.


Still to offload - a babygate that never even made it out of it's box. It was to go on DD's door when she transitioned from crib to bed, but it turns out she's too afraid of the dark to get out of bed alone at night. So it can find a new home.


Some of DD's toys. We rotate. Get rid of old/not played with stuff, and try to purchase second hand where we can, or at the very least discounted/sale items.


Have just been trying to keep stocks up at home. Feeling grateful that we do as my boss was quite poorly end of last week, and over the weekend, and has stated that there is no bread in the house, no milk, no pasta etc. I am very confident that we would have enough of all of these basics to last us all through a week's illness (or any other reason).


I am fortunate enough that the only medication I need, I *could* live without, but I would be passing out from pain 2 days a month. That would affect my employer more than it would me, but would still be very, very unpleasant to live with.


Keeping all my fingers and toes crossed that DD's peanut allergy doesn't progress to anaphylactic if there is such an issue sourcing epipens! How very scary!

[Deleted User]

I'd HATE stones in my shoes and I'd hate anyone else to have stones in theirs if I could do anything about removing them. I come from very poor beginnings indeed, it was a struggle to climb up into the gutter before finding the way to climb out of it so my take on what is a necessity is probably not that of people who had a normal and conventional childhood. To have enough to eat and to be warm and dry with a sturdy door to lock against the world to keep us safe is the most I would hope to have in our lives at any point of them. There was much of early life where those things were missing possibly not all at the same time but even individually there is a lack if one of them is absent. I know that being cold, hungry and without a permanent home is very uncomfortable indeed and never want to be there again. We have what we have today from sheer dogged common sense and going without in order to save for what we needed, not what we wanted, NEEDED. We have very little in our home that was purchased new and very little that cost a great deal we make, grow, rescue, barter for the things we need and as a result are not and never have been in debt. My idea of what would be viewed as a punishment regime is likely to be much bleaker than most folks but having lived through something extremely similar I know it can be done, there are many things that can be done to make it less bleak and a good life to be riven from it if you have a positive outlook and are prepared to work for what you want and not feel hard done by because 'everyone else has more than us' and expect to have it all by right. Hard times make for stronger people.

maryb

I know a lot of people are disappointed and worried about the future. But nobody knows how things will turn out. The future is often vastly different from what was anticipated. There are several signs that the EU could hit some very rough water in the next downturn. IF that is the case we may well look back and think everything turned out for the best. I see the current proposals as standing next to the fire escape (because it doesn't look as if it will be a no deal and we'll still be closely tied in rather than completely outside). It may be a bit drafty but if things all go pear shaped then it's a good place to be. And if everything does go on smoothly for the EU we'll just have to generate growth to compensate.

Businesses will always find a way to make money, it's what they do best. Of course they would like everything to be just as they would like it, it's their job to lobby for that. But if we gave business everything they wanted to make easy profit, workers' conditions would be unspeakable. Every advance in terms and conditions has been met with wailing and predictions of disaster by business and once legislation is enacted they turn to and get on with it

[Deleted User]

I can fully understand that if people haven't known hardship and having to live without the creature comforts in the past the contemplation of a future with less in it than they are used to will be daunting to put it mildly. It is also daunting to me and other folk who have known being poor to a degree that most people couldn't begin to imagine in this affluent day and age but it is less daunting because we know that life isn't all about what you have or don't have, life is about living it to the best of your ability with what you DO have no matter how little and working to make what you have the best if can be. It needn't be the end of the world if things change it might just be the beginning of something different, possibly better for us and also the planet. We won't know until it's a done thing this Brexit what we'll find and how we'll react but being afraid of change before we know what that change will be is pointless.

Blue_Doggy

MrsLurcherwalker wrote: »

I can fully understand that if people haven't known hardship and having to live without the creature comforts in the past the contemplation of a future with less in it than they are used to will be daunting to put it mildly. It is also daunting to me and other folk who have known being poor to a degree that most people couldn't begin to imagine in this affluent day and age but it is less daunting because we know that life isn't all about what you have or don't have, life is about living it to the best of your ability with what you DO have no matter how little and working to make what you have the best if can be. It needn't be the end of the world if things change it might just be the beginning of something different, possibly better for us and also the planet. We won't know until it's a done thing this Brexit what we'll find and how we'll react but being afraid of change before we know what that change will be is pointless.

I was lucky in that the heavy lifting out of poverty was done in my grandparents’ generation, during the youth of my parents. We, in my childhood, were never rich, but thanks to the grit and hard work of my grandparents, and the hard work of my parents and their sense in getting themselves extra education at night-schools we were not dirt-poor either. I grew up with the stories of my parents’ lives and those of their parents and know the sort of grinding poverty they worked to get out of. I have always been grateful and proud for what they did and were.

I would never wish their hardships on other people.

My fear is that the gains which have been made in social justice and living conditions, public health, food standards, and so much else that has made our lives easier and more comfortable, may be traded away in “deals”.

Pep-talks about making the best of what one has are certainly part of prepping for Brexit. I would think most people on this board are aware of making-do, and the need to make the best of things. Many in the wider world may not be. They are the ones you need to reach with your message.

However, as I said above (post #2920) I dare say that it will be what it will be, neither as bad as is feared nor as good as is expected. We will all have to work hard to make sure what we hold dear and important is not taken away from us.