Prepping for Brexit thread

unrecordings

AndyCF wrote: »

I did this with a friend a few months ago who lives about 160 miles away from me in Wales. We only did a very cursory search on expenses 'lately' but it seemed:

My MP seemed to have either lots of staff or few expensive staff (as the claims for those seemed quite high)

My friends MP, her staffing costs were very low but she had very high (imo) expenses for temporary accommodations.

The 'distance' from my friends place vs my place to 'Westminster' is not actually -that- different if you are using a road journey, at least according to vague route planners. It is about 120 vs 150 miles roughly.

To be fair neither of them had any outrageous claims for anything including foods etc.

Just goes to show!

I think thanks to this kind of accountability they mainly know not to take the michael anymore (though our local mp was arrested on this count a few weeks ago)

Blue_Doggy

Sapphire wrote: »

I'm sorry to say that a gaping sore has been truly exposed by the behaviour of the politicians. They don't even bother to speak to the electorate about the situation. No remainers have ever bothered to explain why they think it's a good idea for our country to be ruled by some unelected bureaucrats of the ilk of Junker and that ugly Belgian, with all the implications that would have for democracy. Or indeed, why we were never given a vote on the issue, but were somehow supposed to be fooled into thinking that the EU was 'just a trading organisation' (which most people would be fine with). The arrogance of these trashy people (exceptions excluded) is simply unbelievable.

Perhaps the politicians are just in the pockets of the EU bureaucrats and globalist corporations and individuals, in whose interest it is to make our country weak (via an ongoing process that has been made glaringly obvious over the course of the last couple of decades, and that has accelerated)? A country's sovereignty is a precious thing, generally achieved through centuries of strife and difficulties – who gave the politicians the right to sell off our country, especially without consulting the electorate? Trouble ahead. :cool:

One thing when it comes to preparations for Brexit, the original theme of this thread. Apart from the very good ideas mentioned earlier, I think it may be good to deal with any major expenses you've been thinking of, like those that can be incurred on things such as white goods, or essential work on a property, to ensure that you don't have to wait for too long for any of these things after Brexit. That's what I've been doing (but without any panic). They were things that needed to be done anyway.

You’re quite right to say that the remainers made, and continue to make a very bad case for their point of view, they definitely could have done much better. Equally, the leavers have been very glib about the benefits of leaving, almost patting us on the head and telling us everything would be fantastic.

Junker is actually elected by the European Parliament, which includes the UK’s MEPs, after nomination by the European Council made up of the heads of government, including the UK’s Prime Minister.

The EEC, which we joined in 1973, was a trading organisation. It has evolved over the years, and it was up to the national governments to give the population a vote on the changes. Some did, some didn’t.

Some politicians may be in the pockets of Europeans, some are certainly in the pockets of, and have long-standing business and other interests in the USA (for example, look up Atlantic Bridge and its relationships with CETA and TTIP).

I agree with you that sovereignty is very precious, but I’m not sure what you mean when you say it has been sold off? As far as I can see, with the EU we pool our sovereignty. I do fear that it will actually be sold to the USA without our being asked.

I’m in complete agreement with you about getting major purchases or works completed before the end of October. A very good insight.

Edited to add I’ve just seen I cross-posted with VJsmum, who has made excellent points very succinctly.

SunMoonStars

Anyhow, let’s get back on topic

I have bought all of my veg seeds ready for next year. I suspect that the price of these will increase, and there is also potential for a reduced supply as many are imported from Europe. I’d be peeved if I couldn’t grow my usual varieties.

tooldle

For those frustrated with their MP’s, the responsibilities of an MP are:
1. To represent their constituents (all of them, not just those who voted in a particular way)
2. To represent their party (if aligned to one), and;
3. To act in the best interests of the country.

It seems to me that for this particular situation, their responsibilities conflict. I’m in Wales with a labour MP, living in a location that has received considerable sums from the EU, to support a range of activities.

unrecordings

tooldle wrote: »

For those frustrated with their MP’s, the responsibilities of an MP are:
1. To represent their constituents (all of them, not just those who voted in a particular way)
2. To represent their party (if aligned to one), and;
3. To act in the best interests of the country.

Trouble is, if your MP fails on all three counts, you can't get rid of them other than via election/or they're stupid enough to land themselves in jail

unrecordings

Anyway, getting back to preparations. My attempt to get a comfortable supply of anti-seizure meds was met by... ...utter incompetence. Nothing to do with brexit, I just ended up with no meds at all. And had to send Mrs Un up to the doctors (again) to sort it out. Ho hum

fuddle

tooldle wrote: »

For those frustrated with their MP’s, the responsibilities of an MP are:
1. To represent their constituents (all of them, not just those who voted in a particular way)
2. To represent their party (if aligned to one), and;
3. To act in the best interests of the country.

It seems to me that for this particular situation, their responsibilities conflict. I’m in Wales with a labour MP, living in a location that has received considerable sums from the EU, to support a range of activities.

The problem being constituents on the whole don't feel represented, the party that they're aligned to is highly likely to be fractious and not clear on what they represent and it's up for debate that any of them are acting in the best interests of the country.

In my opinion everything has been thrown up in the air and everyone is scrabbling about, trying to get some sort of order by using interpretation and spin.

unrecordings

Back to the meds side of things - something occured to me earlier: Assuming someone has their !!!! in gear, then the supply of important drugs should not be a problem, but this might come at a cost of the far less important stuff like antihistamines which I assume have largely seasonal demand. I need Cetirizine (a antihistamine) to stop a bad skin reaction with my chemo, but that stuff is also OTC, so I'm tempted just to get a pack as a 30 day reserve. Anyone else had this thought about their supporting meds ?

AndyCF

unrecordings wrote: »

Nothing to do with brexit, I just ended up with no meds at all.

Hope it got sorted.

I would take a wild guess here ( no need to answer, I'm merely typing my thoughts really ) it may of been an "electronic" prescription. These are the only times I have had or heard about relatives having issues generally, either its not there or its wrong etc etc.

Don't get me wrong though, and when it works, it usually works very well indeed and can be a great godsend for those who have mobility issues what with not having to wait for bits of paper to arrive at the pharmacy or collect things etc if delivery was elected.

The problem is (like most 'tech') when it goes wrong, it can go wrong quite badly and cause a lot of problems...

Like that power outage a few weeks back... 'tech at work' etc , I could write quite a bit about my thoughts generally but I don't want to derail this topic so I'll stop here.

Personally I was quite happy with a 'bit of green paper' to occasionally wave at the pharmacist , it was the bit that usually followed it the 'open wallet surgery' aka paying for scripts I did not like! Free elsewhere in the country I'm aware yes.


Regarding 'prep' I've only actually asked one nearby neighbour and they have said they are carrying on as per normal. I think some of this actually depends on how you deal with your 'house stock' as such perhaps.

By 'stock' I mean foods/meds/toiletries and things, if you usually only go shopping once every two-three weeks or so and do a mega shop (I'm aware of one person who does this and just gets fresh bread locally) then it may have less of an impact if things do go a bit amiss. Those who like to do a "little and often" aka daily or every two days, may notice the difference more, slightly less if you do a weekly shop. Maybe.

unrecordings

AndyCF wrote: »

Hope it got sorted.

The problem is (like most 'tech') when it goes wrong, it causes a lot of problems

Personally I was quite happy with a 'bit of green paper' to occasionally wave at the pharmacist

By 'stock' I mean foods/meds/toiletries and things, if you usually only go shopping once every two-three weeks or so and do a mega shop (I'm aware of one person who does this and just gets fresh bread locally) then it may have less of an impact if things do go a bit amiss. Those who like to do a "little and often" aka daily or every two days, may notice the difference more, slightly less if you do a weekly shop. Maybe.

Yep it got sorted, it was just general crapness. Having worked in 'tech' ie I was the person who had to sort out the resulting mess, I have zero confidence in it. Programmers are generally fresh out of uni and have zero life skills to accommodate or understand the people using their wares. Anyway, that was another life for me.

Stock/prep, all the same to me really, what I'm doing isn't out of the ordinary in the ebb & flow of my life. I'm not a prepper per se but I'm naturally, shall we say both cautious & organised. So when I was mulling over quitting a very well paid job, I 'prepped', twenty years earlier when I realised the label I was working for was about to go down the tubes, I 'prepped' - it's just what I do