Prepping for Brexit thread

C_J

Something to read, if anyone is curious, I’m still trying to guess what the redacted paragraph 15 says (fuel shortages is my best guess)

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/831199/20190802_Latest_Yellowhammer_Planning_assumptions_CDL.pdf

Honey_Bear

For those who haven't yet seen it, Operation Yellowhammer has been published. It is HMG's Reasonable Worst Case Planning Assumptions, dated 2 August 2019.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/831199/20190802_Latest_Yellowhammer_Planning_assumptions_CDL.pdf?fbclid=IwAR29rQsDDYPuxGShZOAd-K2sZIEmbYpAskLtQovLcDute4mfmT1ol4n6jpo

For information, the paragraph concerning energy supplies is 5, medicines are at paragraph 6, food and water at Paragraph 7. It's all very easy to read.

The redacted paragraph 15's text is:

'Tariffs make UK petrol exports to the EU uncompetitive. Industry had plans to mitigate the impact on refinery margins and profitability, but UK government policy to set petrol import tariffs at 0% inadvertently undermines these plans. This leads to big financial losses and the closure of two refineries (which are converted to import terminals) with about 2,000 direct job losses. Resulting strike action at refineries would lead to disruptions to fuel availability for 1 - 2 weeks in the regions they directly supply. Government analysis of the impact of no deal on refineries continues.'

Reading it, it becomes very clear why some MPs are resisting the imposition of these conditions on their constituents.

Jazee

unrecordings wrote: »

Back to the meds side of things - something occured to me earlier: Assuming someone has their !!!! in gear, then the supply of important drugs should not be a problem, but this might come at a cost of the far less important stuff like antihistamines which I assume have largely seasonal demand. I need Cetirizine (a antihistamine) to stop a bad skin reaction with my chemo, but that stuff is also OTC, so I'm tempted just to get a pack as a 30 day reserve. Anyone else had this thought about their supporting meds ?

You can get packs of 30 of this online cheaply from chemist 4 you. Long dates too.

GreyQueen

I have tried and tried with online prescription ordering and thrown in the towel with disgust over the constant errors. I now take a green piece of paper down to the very analogue box-bolted-to-the-GP-surgery-reception-wall and drop it in there. Works for me, and a lot less aggro and frustrations than attempting to get GP to authorise online prescription requests and then get them sent to my assigned pharmacist.


I shan't start on the carpness of getting the pharmacy to order repeat sccripts for you. Hello Boots, who tell me that they can offer 4 weekly or 8 weekly options. For a script which lasts 6 weeks.


I added 10 butter bricks to the stash from Farmious Foodius, they have a BB of late Nov and are currently 99p each, a saving of 50p over the best price which is widely offered for non-branded butter. You can freeze butter, should your mini freezer not be, as mine is presently, overflowing with allotment produce.


Allotment planning for 2020 is in hand, whereabouts of certain crops being decided now. I sow broad beans in October, they go dormant over winter and grow away strongly in spring. Being tough little wintertime bruisers, the black fly barely bother them.


Am still adding some cans and jars to the stash, particularly of imports like tomatoes and olives.

gfplux

The two links to Yellowhammer do not work.
Here is a link that does work curtesy of the daily email from Politico.eu.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/831199/20190802_Latest_Yellowhammer_Planning_assumptions_CDL.pdf?utm_source=POLITICO.EU&utm_campaign=777619a94a-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_09_12_05_58&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_10959edeb5-777619a94a-190026745

Now that is STRANGE. Link does not work with this thread. I suggest copy the link into a browser.
STRANGE!

Even stranger, that does not work!

[Deleted User]

The blind blinding the sighted perhaps? either by design or ineptitude?

Primrose

Could we have a brief discussion on here about what we can use for useful substitutes in the case of temporary fresh product shortages if it comes to that?

I know dried milk powder is available as a fresh milk substitute but wonder what can usefully substitute for butter in /sandwich making/toast making activities. Dry toast/bread is not very appealing !

Wish my mum was still around so I could ask her what she did during butter rationing during the last war!

AndyCF

Primrose wrote: »

Could we have a brief discussion on here about what we can use for useful substitutes in the case of temporary fresh product shortages if it comes to that?

A sane idea. This is also a good thought for those wishing to 'try something a bit different' even with no regard to the 'lack of' possibility.

Primrose wrote: »

I know dried milk powder is available as a fresh milk substitute but wonder what can usefully substitute for butter in /sandwich making/toast making activities. Dry toast/bread is not very appealing !

Was going to suggest the instant milk powder for tea/coffee, I know it tastes a bit different but you can get used to it. I used it almost exclusively for hot drinks for about a year!

In regard to toast / sandwich filler and the like: Some kind of paste spread perhaps ? I'm possibly thinking of the meat paste type spreads, which can be found cheaply with a bit of a search. An alternative would be some kind of 'veggie' / 'vegan' spread, I'm sure such items -do- exist as there will be demand for them but as to what they would be classed as or called I'm not quite sure ?

I can just about recall a couple of times being given a lard sandwich (brown/wholemeal bread) though! To be fair it only had a little in it and it was from what I can remember quite reasonable!

Primrose wrote: »

Wish my mum was still around so I could ask her what she did during butter rationing during the last war!

Similar for me wish grandparents were, as they would be able to make suggestions no doubt.

Having said that, Google may assist with some ideas, taken with a "pinch of salt" mind you...

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Primrose those not-fridged little packs of cheese triangles are a good butter substitute for savoury sandwiches and usually are very cheap to buy and have a long shelf life, as do the tubes of Primula cheese spread, both can usually be found in the £1 shops. I don't mind jam or marmalade or even marmite straight on to bread/crispbreads/oatcakes. If you can find it you can still get tins of sterilized cream which could be used to spread for sweet sandwiches of all kinds.

If you can get butter there are wartime methods of adding various things to make twice as much but none of them sound to have been very nice as an end result. Old fashioned and not particularly healthy or appealing to the modern taste but if you ever have a joint, save the dripping and add an oxo cube (again a wartime suggestion) and use that as a spread on bread. I think I'd rather cultivate a taste for just bread and the filling, it would take a while but I'm sure not as long as I think it would.

Primrose

I was thinking a drizzle of cooking oil of some kind would perhaps moisten the surface of bread or toast. We make our own bread in a bread maker using a mixture of flours which tend to produce a very "thick" texture which would need softening with something.

A whipped mixture of balsamic vinegar & olive oil might work for savoury sandwiches. The cheese triangles is a good suggestion, as are spreadable pastes.