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Sorned car on jointly owned private land

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  • alldar
    alldar Posts: 26 Forumite
    If it can, it will......We and our neighbours have visitors children, grandchildren etc., all played on this private access as it was deemed safe and secure until these loaded vehicles arrived.......
  • custardy
    custardy Posts: 38,365 Forumite
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    alldar wrote: »
    If it can, it will......We and our neighbours have visitors children, grandchildren etc., all played on this private access as it was deemed safe and secure until these loaded vehicles arrived.......

    So you are seriously telling me you are in fear of bits just flying off these parked cars?
  • alldar
    alldar Posts: 26 Forumite
    Where did you get this from.......kids are kids, and we!!!8217;ve told them to keep clear, but kids are kids so we have concerns...ok with that?
  • Aylesbury_Duck
    Aylesbury_Duck Posts: 15,920 Forumite
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    Tell the kids not to play on the parked vehicles. They wouldn't play on visitors' parked cars, would they. For goodness sake, your arguments are getting desperate. As people have advised, if you are serious about doing something, you need to club together with your like-minded neighbours and pay for legal advice to see if there's an angle the non-legally trained of us on here are unaware of, but understand that you might just be throwing money away.
  • PasturesNew
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    alldar wrote: »
    The missives say that the access road is only to allow vehicular and pedestrian access to the house they own... it says nothing about parking
    alldar wrote: »
    ....We and our neighbours have visitors children, grandchildren etc., all played on this private access as it was deemed safe and secure until these loaded vehicles arrived.......

    So, the missives state that there is only a right for people PASS OVER the land to access their property - them, their visitors, trades people, deliveries, etc .... pass over...

    Yet you yourselves are breaking the same rule if you are allowing children to play there - because it's NOT a children's playground, it's a right to pass OVER, not to stop and play ... not to dance a jig, not to hold a street party ...

    Maybe he did it because the kids were annoying to him and he thought "if you can do stuff that's not allowed, then so can I".

    It has to cut both ways.... he can't do what he likes - and neither can you.

    Your first statement held my attention as it appears clear that he is doing something he has not right to do .... but then .... you declared that you too have been doing something you don't have the right to do in that space.

    Children playing is not accessing a property ....
  • PasturesNew
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    alldar wrote: »
    Where did you get this from.......kids are kids, and we!!!8217;ve told them to keep clear, but kids are kids so we have concerns...ok with that?

    No. Kids aren't kids ... they're tiny people looking for mischief to get up to - where's the responsible adult supervising them ...? Kids playing should be supervised, rules set out and adhered to - and spankings dealt out where they get argumentative.

    And, as I pointed out, they shouldn't be there anyway - and it would appear they wouldn't give a tinker's cuss whether the car was new/expensive or SORNed.... they are running riot without respect or regard.
  • alldar
    alldar Posts: 26 Forumite
    Tell the kids not to play on the parked vehicles. They wouldn't play on visitors' parked cars, would they. For goodness sake, your arguments are getting desperate. As people have advised, if you are serious about doing something, you need to club together with your like-minded neighbours and pay for legal advice to see if there's an angle the non-legally trained of us on here are unaware of, but understand that you might just be throwing money away.
    As I stated in our last post we have already told the kids to keep clear....but these vehicles look like they have climbing frames on the back of them, not securely fixed, if a ball etc., hit them who knows etc., again this is why we have told them to keep clear....Also as I already stated we are exploring the legal route, and was looking for constructive suggestions that could help us to do this.
    Desperate, yes we are desperate, we do not like living like this......sorry if that offends you.
  • alldar
    alldar Posts: 26 Forumite
    No. Kids aren't kids ... they're tiny people looking for mischief to get up to - where's the responsible adult supervising them ...? Kids playing should be supervised, rules set out and adhered to - and spankings dealt out where they get argumentative.

    And, as I pointed out, they shouldn't be there anyway - and it would appear they wouldn't give a tinker's cuss whether the car was new/expensive or SORNed.... they are running riot without respect or regard.

    What?.....What type of forum is this?...is this humour?.....have I had a sense of humour bypass?...all rhetorical questions by the way!
  • Aylesbury_Duck
    Aylesbury_Duck Posts: 15,920 Forumite
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    As I stated in our last post we have already told the kids to keep clear....but these vehicles look like they have climbing frames on the back of them, not securely fixed, if a ball etc., hit them who knows etc., again this is why we have told them to keep clear....Also as I already stated we are exploring the legal route, and was looking for constructive suggestions that could help us to do this.
    Desperate, yes we are desperate, we do not like living like this......sorry if that offends you.

    No offence taken. I'm a bit more resilient than that. As for balls hitting things, etc, it's been pointed out that the area isn't a playground. You can't complain about your neighbour misusing (in your view) the access road and use children playing there (which is misuse) as a reason for taking action.

    Get that legal advice and see what comes of it. Perhaps a polite request on solicitor's headed paper might prompt the neighbour into changing his mind.
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    alldar wrote: »
    What?.....What type of forum is this?...is this humour?.....have I had a sense of humour bypass?...all rhetorical questions by the way!
    This is a forum where random strangers can offer their opinion, guidance, help and solutions ... it is not a forum where you get stroked on the head and we all say "there, there, what a nasty man" if YOU are in the wrong.

    In short - you are both in the wrong... and you are probably more in the wrong as you're knowingly enabling random children to potentially damage another person's property.

    You have asked; we are answering. You might not like what you hear, but, by your own posting, it's the truth - the right is to pass/repass to access a property ... not to kick balls around, not to climb on/around vehicles, not to play ....

    Indeed, he could charge you with damage if he chose to. You have the power and control to stop the children endangering themselves, yet you continue to send them out there willy nilly, unsupervised, without a care in the world that YOU might be setting them up for a nasty accident. You KNOW the vehicle is there, you've SEEN them playing around it - that's negligence if you don't correct that behaviour.
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