Parking Issues..

bigisi

T3RRY wrote: »

the neighbour probably needs to learn the highway code first.

Erm... you may want to do so yourself. Look up rule 201 the final three words of which are "if you can". From what I can see in that picture you definitely can.

T3RRY wrote: »

I am not stubborn

Of course not, dear :rotfl:

Aylesbury_Duck

T3RRY wrote: »

The problem with this is that, in order to get my car in reverse, I would have to enter the close from the main road in reverse all the way down (around 50 meters) to the end where our property is (Unless two bays are free either side of the close to act as a turning circle.. rare). The other problem with this is that the car parks in front of our living room window. If I reverse in, it reduces the light in the living room as the rear is higher than the front.

I'm afraid that is very much tough luck. Just reviewing the whole situation:

You've recently moved in to a street where there were supposedly no parking problems.

You created a driveway (with or without council permission?), appearing it seems to deprive the other residents of a turning space.

Now you want other people to change their habits so that the way you park your own car parked on your own new drive doesn't reduce the light in your own living room or cause you some other inconvenience.

I am starting to see why the neighbours opposite might not be happy and why there are now parking problems where before there were none.

T3RRY

Fosterdog wrote: »

The house directly opposite yours looks like they have exactly the same room as you do but a much bigger car and they seem to have managed to reverse onto their drive with no problem and with their bigger car not blocking the light into their window.

No - the lamp post marks the centre of the close or there about. They park further to our side as there is a double drive on the other side. That drive belongs to another resident who has had a fell out with them so, no communication between them either.

Fosterdog wrote: »

I'm sorry but you moved into the area, you didn't like parking further away from your house so had a dropped kerb added meaning there is less parking for your neighbours, now you are the one complaining that your choice of parking in your own drive in the most sensible manner will block out your light from your living room. Have you considered the fact that other people exist and the world does not revolve around you? You seem to want everything done to suit you even though it has caused problems and inconvenience for other people yet you make them out to be the bad guys. If you cannot safely manoeuvre your car in that area then you are not safe to drive at all.

When we moved to the area, we parked our car in front of the property (in the hammerhead). This neighbour, parked in the bays, therefore lowering the kerb meant we where not taking away any parking spaces, and if we were the council would have rejected out application. The issue about light in the living room etc is minor, its how you get to reverse in.. as mentioned, we currently have a small car which is fine, family with larger cars e.g. Audi A4 saloon can't make it out.

I didn't say they are bad people or that we hate them or trying to make them look bad (they are doing a good job of that themselves), what I am saying is how we can resolve this properly. I don't have any issue them putting there car there if and when the bays are full (am sure thats reasonable), but why make it difficult for us for no apparent reason, is that not being selfish?

T3RRY

Aylesbury_Duck wrote: »

I'm afraid that is very much tough luck. Just reviewing the whole situation:

You've recently moved in to a street where there were supposedly no parking problems.

You created a driveway (with or without council permission?), appearing it seems to deprive the other residents of a turning space.

Now you want other people to change their habits so that the way you park your own car parked on your own new drive doesn't reduce the light in your own living room or cause you some other inconvenience.

I am starting to see why the neighbours opposite might not be happy and why there are now parking problems where before there were none.

No - We created a driveway (with council permission), and it did not deprive the other residents of a turning space or parking.

The neighbour is the one depriving all other residents of a turning space along with obstructing our drive (and would say the opposite neighbour too). He manages to park in reverse by going onto his neighbours drive and reverses in, we can't do that as there is no drive on the side but a large kerb.

Cakeguts

One of the reasons why ex council houses are cheaper to buy than non ex council houses is that can get nieghbours who wouldn't necessarily live in a road like that if the houses were all privately owned. The council chooses your neighbours for you.

Aylesbury_Duck

T3RRY wrote: »

No - We created a driveway (with council permission), and it did not deprive the other residents of a turning space or parking.

That may be technically true but in your opening post you said that the neighbours parked there, so your new driveway and dropped kerb has - in their view - deprived them of a parking space.

One of the reasons they may be parking where they are now (aside from doing it to annoy you) is that by doing so, they leave the turning points free. A car coming to the end of the close can drive into either corner to perform a turn. If they park further over either way, they block one of the turning points. Their view might (reasonably) be that they don't have to provide you with excessive free space to exit and enter your drive. just enough for you to do so. As it is, you can - admittedly with a bit of manoeuvring - get in and out. The council permission for a dropped kerb and new driveway doesn't come with a guarantee of turning space outside your house beyond reasonable access, which you appear to have.

Cheeky_Monkey

T3RRY wrote: »

When we moved to the area, we parked our car in front of the property (in the hammerhead).

So, right from the start, you blocked one end of the hammerhead turning space and you wonder why the neighbour is peed off with you!

rtho782

T3RRY wrote: »

as I mentioned anything larger than a two door hatch back can't make it out (we are planing on getting a family estate). There is a pouch on the right and a fence on the left of the picture that prevent us from turning until we have passed the kerb.

currently we do manage to wiggle out with 4 moves, however why should we do that when there are plenty of bays that are no more than 5 meters from where they are parked now.

I will ignore your comment about me learning to drive, as the neighbour probably needs to learn the highway code first.

So your future car that you don't own might or might not be able to fit. Well that's not really relevant is it? Come back when you get the big car.

You complain that you cannot reverse in to the drive as you would have to reverse in off the main road, but I assume you are not reversing out onto the main road so you must manage to turn around now. Perhaps do that before reversing into your drive.

To be honest that gap looks pretty massive, I don't see why you have an issue getting out, and as such the neighbour isn't breaking the highway code imho.

T3RRY

Just for a bit more info on this I have attached another image.

EmmyLou30

That second photo shows the reality of the situation much better. Even if selfish neighbour parked parallel to the kerb he'd still be obstructing you IMO.


Of course no-one should have been parking in the turning head, neither you or your neighbour, but creating a drive has eradicated the problem as now you're out of the turning head and people can use it as intended. I think this is a definite positive for everyone (except the selfish neighbour of course who thinks a space outside another house is his more than it's yours!? weird).


As for how you solve the issue....no idea I'm afraid. You could ask the council to paint double yellows all round the turning head? Other than that I doubt there's much to be done. Having said that he'll know it was you and get even more irate and probably vandalise your car or something. So in the same boat I would just ignore him and hope he gets bored with no reaction from you. Ok so it's a faff reversing in or whatever but it beats the alternative of a neighbour hell bent on revenge.