Vendor has left a load of stuff in my friend's new house!

Cheeky_Monkey

TheBanker wrote: »

Dad's been told to tell his daughter that if something isn't sorted by lunchtime tomorrow the stuff is off to the dump. But I'm not sure my friend will follow through.

I bet he doesn't. He's been well and truly mugged off.

So when the chav finally comes round 'sometime' next week to collect her tat, your friend needs to make sure that his garage is locked or she'll probably steal any of his things that are also in there.

Norman_Castle

dunroving wrote: »

I don't know why you are even involving the dad, poor bloke. He isn't responsible for his daughter (I assume she is an adult?)

The dad phoned the ops friend, presumably after being lumbered with this problem.

dunroving

Norman_Castle wrote: »

The dad phoned the ops friend, presumably after being lumbered with this problem.

Maybe, but the last communication was that the father was "told" to pass on messages to his daughter. Leave the poor bloke alone, and communicate directly with the miserable vendor.

I think of all the players here, I feel most sorry for the father.

Smodlet

dunroving wrote: »

Maybe, but the last communication was that the father was "told" to pass on messages to his daughter. Leave the poor bloke alone, and communicate directly with the miserable vendor.

I think of all the players here, I feel most sorry for the father.

I don't. He should have brought his daughter up to have some damned respect for other people.

TheBanker

macman wrote: »

So she left more stuff than would fit into an entire garage? With just a note to say she'd move it 'next week'? Good grief.
Has she actually taken any furniture with her at all?

She's taken most of the stuff that isn't furniture, by which I mean cupboards are empty - she's not left things like clothes, crockery, kids toys... I think she's taken some furniture but obviously don't know how much she had to start with. The large items (bed, wardrobe, dining room table and chairs, sofa) have all been left.

She's moved in with her new partner, into a house that he already lived in. Dad says it is already fully furnished so she doesn't actually have room for any of this stuff.

This is one of the reasons my friend is so cross - if it was just a case of her being let down by a removal man, or a van breaking down, he'd have comfort that the stuff was being moved at some point. The problem is even with our offer of transport, there doesn't seem to be anywhere for it to go to and my friend fears it being left in his garage for weeks/months.

Cheeky_Monkey wrote: »

So when the chav finally comes round 'sometime' next week to collect her tat, your friend needs to make sure that his garage is locked or she'll probably steal any of his things that are also in there.

At the moment only her things are in there. His things are mostly still in my garage or at his parents house, they will be going straight into the house today. The locks on the house have been changed but not the one on the garage. My friend believes it would be easier if she was able to get the stuff out when it suits her rather than him having to re-arrange things or the collection being delayed further.

dunroving wrote: »

Maybe, but the last communication was that the father was "told" to pass on messages to his daughter. Leave the poor bloke alone, and communicate directly with the miserable vendor.

I think of all the players here, I feel most sorry for the father.

I do agree - but father chose to get involved by phoning my friend yesterday and then calling round in the afternoon to try to sort things out. "Told" is probably the wrong word; He was "told" that the stuff was going to the dump unless resolved today. Up to him if he passes that on or not. His daughter has already been told by text message which resulted in the abusive response.

moneyistooshorttomention

That does cast a bit of a new light on things that daughter doesnt actually have anywhere to move her stuff to anyway and doesnt even need it.

There's every chance that (left to herself) she'll leave her stuff there for evermore - as she's first too busy, then too ill and so on and so on.

This is where OP needs to be clear what the law is as to how long he can be legally compelled to hang onto her stuff for her.

I recall that way back I received unsolicited goods from a company (unsolicited by me anyway - as it was a set-up by someone else) and I checked out the law on that and I had to notify the company that sent the goods requesting them to provide means (ie pay the postage) to get their goods back again and, after a certain period of time, if they hadn't taken action to retrieve those goods (ie sent me the postage money in this case) then I could dispose of them as I pleased. I believe it was 3 months I had to hang onto those goods for.

So it will be much the same sort of principle at play here. Let's hope one isn't forced to have one's home cluttered-up with someone else's property for as long as 3 months.

Personally, I would have thought that this daft bint has no real intention to fetch her stuff ever by the sound of it and be providing myself with a "paper trail" to prove that I'd given her until x date (say one weeks time) to remove her stuff or I'd dispose of it as I pleased. If it came to day 8 and daft bint still hadn't retrieved her stuff then:
a. I very much doubt she'd take any legal action about it being disposed of anyway
b. If she did do so - then the evidence would be there in writing to show a judge in small claims court (or the police) that OP's friend really had made genuine efforts to get her stuff back to her. I'm sure it would be regarded legally as "reasonable" to expect not to have one's home used as free storage space for someone else's possessions for longer than a week (even if it were a mansion and loads of space to spare - but all the more so in the case of a very ordinary size home).

So I'd get rid of the stuff on Day 8 - if daft bint hadnt removed it herself.

In my experience - people like her are "all mouth and not much intelligence" and will yell to get their way, but won't go any further on it if they don't manage to.

shortcrust

Smodlet wrote: »

I don't. He should have brought his daughter up to have some damned respect for other people.

I agree, and he shouldn't have got involved when the daughter skipped off on her weekend away. Could it just be that there's a link between his willingness to swoop in to the rescue of his adult child and the woman's sociopathic lack of responsibility?

Norman_Castle

dunroving wrote: »

I think of all the players here, I feel most sorry for the father.

Me too. Unlike the ops friend he's burdened with his daughter for life.

Norman_Castle

TheBanker wrote: »

She's moved in with her new partner, into a house that he already lived in. Dad says it is already fully furnished so she doesn't actually have room for any of this stuff.

So its highly likely she doesn't want or need anything she's left. She will have expected to walk away from this furniture telling herself the new owner can use it.
I would fill the garage and store extra items outside covered in plastic then use the solicitors to get a payment for its removal. It'll be an education for her.

For final disposal try charities such as the British Heart Foundation who will collect usable furniture in many areas.
https://www.bhf.org.uk/shop/donating-goods/book-a-free-furniture-collection

TheBanker

Well, it seems Dad has sorted something out. He's just asked my friend if our offer of moving the junk in our hired van is still available. So it's going somewhere this afternoon but I don't know where.

Dad and a helper are going to come round to load the van and will be unloading at the other end. I'll have to drive it as it's hired in my name and nobody else is insured.