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Ukcpm ignoring my appeal what to do?

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  • Veed3779
    Veed3779 Posts: 98 Forumite
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    Hi guys, received a claim form from the county court this week so looks like I have got to prepare myself for a day in court.
    So do I just send back the acknowledgement form and then the defence form? Also is the counter claim something I should be looking at doing (not sure what I would be claiming for) or should I just be concentrating on my defence instead?
  • KeithP
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    Do not send anything anywhere just yet.

    What is the Issue Date on your Claim Form?

    Did it come from the County Court Business Centre in Northampton, or from somewhere else?
  • Umkomaas
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    So do I just send back the acknowledgement form and then the defence form?
    Professional advice on your questions is contained in the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, post #2. Please read it, it must become your Bible from here on in.
    Also is the counter claim something I should be looking at doing (not sure what I would be claiming for)
    If you're not sure, then I'm sure we aren't.
    or should I just be concentrating on my defence instead?
    Yes.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Veed3779
    Veed3779 Posts: 98 Forumite
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    KeithP wrote: »
    Do not send anything anywhere just yet.

    What is the Issue Date on your Claim Form?

    Did it come from the County Court Business Centre in Northampton, or from somewhere else?

    Issue date is 25th Feb and yes came from Northampton
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    Veed3779 wrote: »
    Issue date is 25th Feb and yes came from Northampton
    With a Claim Issue Date of 25th February, you have until Monday 18th March to do the Acknowledgement of Service, but there is nothing to be gained by delaying it. To do the AoS, follow the guidance offered in a Dropbox link from post #2 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread. About ten minutes work - no thinking required.

    Having done the AoS, you have until 4pm on Monday 1st April 2019 to file your Defence.

    That's nearly a month away. Loads of time to produce a perfect Defence, but don't leave it to the very last minute.


    When you are happy with the content, your Defence should be filed via email as suggested here:
      Print your Defence.
    1. Sign it and date it.
    2. Scan the signed document back in and save it as a pdf.
    3. Send that pdf as an email attachment to CCBCAQ@Justice.gov.uk
    4. Just put the claim number and the word Defence in the email title, and in the body of the email something like 'Please find my Defence attached'.
    5. Log into MCOL after a few days to see if the Claim is marked "defended". If not chase the CCBC until it is.
    6. Do not be surprised to receive a copy of the Claimant's Directions Questionnaire, they are just trying to put you under pressure.
    7. Wait for your DQ from the CCBC, or download one from the internet, and then re-read post #2 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread to find out exactly what to do with it.
  • Veed3779
    Veed3779 Posts: 98 Forumite
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    Umkomaas wrote: »
    Professional advice on your questions is contained in the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, post #2. Please read it, it must become your Bible from here on in.


    If you're not sure, then I'm sure we aren't.


    Yes.

    Yep just been going through the newbie thread again currently reading through some of the cases and links provided and reading some of the defences.
    So I believe my next step is to complete the aos but to do it online.
  • Veed3779
    Veed3779 Posts: 98 Forumite
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    KeithP wrote: »
    With a Claim Issue Date of 25th February, you have until Monday 18th March to do the Acknowledgement of Service, but there is nothing to be gained by delaying it. To do the AoS, follow the guidance offered in a Dropbox link from post #2 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread. About ten minutes work - no thinking required.

    Having done the AoS, you have until 4pm on Monday 1st April 2019 to file your Defence.

    That's nearly a month away. Loads of time to produce a perfect Defence, but don't leave it to the very last minute.



    When you are happy with the content, your Defence should be filed via email as suggested here:
      Print your Defence.
    1. Sign it and date it.
    2. Scan the signed document back in and save it as a pdf.
    3. Send that pdf as an email attachment to CCBCAQ@Justice.gov.uk
    4. Just put the claim number and the word Defence in the email title, and in the body of the email something like 'Please find my Defence attached'.
    5. Log into MCOL after a few days to see if the Claim is marked "defended". If not chase the CCBC until it is.
    6. Do not be surprised to receive a copy of the Claimant's Directions Questionnaire, they are just trying to put you under pressure.
    7. Wait for your DQ from the CCBC, or download one from the internet, and then re-read post #2 of the NEWBIES FAQ sticky thread to find out exactly what to do with it.

    Yes found the Dropbox document just going through it now thank you.
  • Veed3779
    Veed3779 Posts: 98 Forumite
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    Right after reading through lots of the defences I have pulled together what bits I believe are relevant to me and have drafted my first attempt at a defence, would appreciate if you guys could give me some pointers on where I may have gone wrong.
    Be gentle!
  • Veed3779
    Veed3779 Posts: 98 Forumite
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    IN THE COUNTY COURT

    CLAIM No: xxxxxxxxxx

    BETWEEN:

    UK CAR PARK MANAGEMENT LTD (Claimant)

    -and-

    xxxxxxxxxxxx (Defendant)

    ________________________________________
    DEFENCE
    ________________________________________

    1. The Defendant denies that the Claimant is entitled to relief in the sum claimed, or at all.

    2. The facts are that the vehicle, registration XXXX, of which the Defendant is the registered keeper, was parked on the above date alongside a kerb at the side of the road within a residential site,where there was no road markings or private bays and causing no obstruction.

    3. The terms on the Claimant's signage are also displayed in a font which is too small to be read from a passing vehicle, and is in such a position that anyone attempting to read the tiny font would be unable to do so easily. It is, therefore, denied that the Claimant's signage is capable of creating a legally binding contract.

    4. Due to the sparseness of the particulars, it is unclear as to what legal basis the claim is brought, whether for breach of contract, contractual liability, or trespass. However, it is denied that the Defendant, or any driver of the vehicle, entered into any contractual agreement with the Claimant, whether express, implied, or by conduct.

    5. The Claimant is put to strict proof that it has sufficient interest in the land or that there are specific terms in its contract to bring an action on its own behalf. As a third party agent, the Claimant may not pursue any charge, unless specifically authorised by the principal. The Defendant has the reasonable belief that the Claimant does not have the authority to issue charges on this land in their own name, and that they have no right to bring any action regarding this claim.

    6. The Defendant has the reasonable belief that the Claimant has not incurred £60 costs to pursue an alleged £100 debt. The Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, in Schedule 4, Para 4(5) states that the maximum sum that may be recovered from the keeper is the charge stated on the Notice to Keeper, in this case £100

    7. The Protection of Freedoms Act 2012, Schedule 4, at Section 4(5) states that the maximum sum that may be recovered from the keeper is the charge stated on the Notice to Keeper, in this case £100. The claim includes an additional £60, for which no calculation or explanation is given, and which appears to be an attempt at double recovery.

    8. In summary, the Claimant's particulars disclose no legal basis for the sum claimed, and the Court is invited to dismiss the claim in its entirety.
  • KeithP
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    There seems to be a bit of repetition in paras 6 and 7.
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