Ukcpm ignoring my appeal what to do?

bertiewhite

Veed3779 wrote: »

Received a notice to keeper before Christmas with a terrible picture in the dark of my car parked on road way in an area controlled by cpm,

So were you actually parked illegally?

waamo

bertiewhite wrote: »

So were you actually parked illegally?

What law has the op broken and what gives a private company the right to enforce that law?

System

So were you actually parked illegally?

@Bertie you don't seem to understand the issues here. "Illegality" suggests statute law whereas this is a contractual dispute.

Illegality needs no meeting of minds. You have either broken a law or not. Contract disputes is where two parties have made an agreement which both understand and where one fails to live up to that promise.

Completely different.

bertiewhite

waamo wrote: »

What law has the op broken and what gives a private company the right to enforce that law?

IamEmanresu wrote: »

@Bertie you don't seem to understand the issues here. "Illegality" suggests statute law whereas this is a contractual dispute.

Illegality needs no meeting of minds. You have either broken a law or not. Contract disputes is where two parties have made an agreement which both understand and where one fails to live up to that promise.

Completely different.

That's what I was trying to ascertain when I asked the question.

So the answer is simply "no" then.

Fruitcake

This is contract or civil law, so the correct term would be unlawful, not illegal.

There, that's my two pedant's worth.

Coupon-mad

bertiewhite wrote: »

So were you actually parked illegally?

Interesting that this is your usual contribution, including on other threads 'what was the offence?'

You need to open your eyes to the 'outrageous scam'(Hansard 2.2.18) that is the PPC industry.

bertiewhite

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Interesting that this is your usual contribution, including on other threads 'what was the offence?'

That's because I'd like to know why posters have got these fines/notices/whatever in the first place. I don't seem to get anything of the sort.

Coupon-mad wrote: »

You need to open your eyes to the 'outrageous scam'(Hansard 2.2.18) that is the PPC industry.

Do enlighten me....

Umkomaas

Do enlighten me....

https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2018-02-02/debates/CC84AF5E-AC6E-4E14-81B1-066E6A892807/Parking(CodeOfPractice)Bill

http://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/2f0384f2-eba5-4fff-ab07-cf24b6a22918?in=12:49:41

Fill yer boots!

bertiewhite

Yes, yes, yes I get that not all fines are fair - which is why I have asked why they were issued in the first place (I don't know why Coupon-mad seems to think this is my usual contribution).

I've never had a parking ticket in my life, because I haven't given anybody reason to give me one so I can't help thinking that at least a small percentage of the cases on MSE must have some grounds for issue?

Coupon-mad

I don't know why Coupon-mad seems to think this is my usual contribution

Because that's all I've noticed from you, more than just once or twice. It's misleading to newbies to ask them about the 'offence' because there is no fine or offence.

It's the parking firms which are offensive.

Forgive me if you have contributed useful info to help victims extract themselves from the 'bloodsuckers' (Hansard again).

I've never had a parking ticket in my life, because I haven't given anybody reason to give me one

Nor has Umkomaas, AFAIK, and nor have I for about 7 years or so (and that was in a car park with NO SIGNS!). No contract then...complete scam ticket, I've never looked back!

so I can't help thinking that at least a small percentage of the cases on MSE must have some grounds for issue?

Honestly, NO. Nothing, nada, none of them in the 10+ years I've been on here.

The entire industry is rotten; there are NO decent parking firms we could name.