Parkingeye fine - Aire Street Leeds

Silvercloud18

This is my first draft, please pull apart as you see fit




ParkingEye advise they offer a grace period of 10 minutes "OR MORE". As per reasons given in original appeal (poor surface, cars parking as and where they can due to no bays, queues to get out) the 15 minutes spent deciding whether to accept T&C's in this car park fall in to a reasonable grace period. This was also agreed by "Jamie Macrae" on a recent Popla appeal #### also for Aire Street, on the same evening (DATE), which was granted successful as it was agreed that the 16 minutes that driver spent in Aire Street was in a reasonable grace period. There fore an appeal for the same date and time for 1 minute less must also.

The pictures in the evidence pack are 2/3 years old. As shown by photos in the drivers original appeal signs have been removed/ heavily grafittied since these pictures were taken. Also ParkingEyes picture does also show the rubble around the site which makes it difficult to manoeuvre.


I would also like to draw attention to the "contract" supplied in ParkingEye's evidence pack has been scanned and sent in such a way that it is completely illegible so T&Cs with landowner cant be read at all.


I would also like to draw attention to ParkingEyes evidence showing where they alledge the majority of signs are (back wall) are in fact as stated in my appeal behind/obstructed by vehicles. Again as stated in appeal they cant be read clearly. It is not acceptable to show stock pictures of a sign. This does not show them as the driver would see them. They have also not shown images of the signs, which are unlit, in the dark as it was for the driver.

Evidence has been given that the driver did not accept the T&C's, left within a reasonable period and found alternative parking, of which evidence has been provided in terms of parking receipts.

Silvercloud18

yeh 4 times it all appears to be the same but its labelled 1,2,3,4!! I don't know if theyre trying to baffle me with words as i did in my original appeal!!

Silvercloud18

Don't know if this will work but just for reference of the evidence packs.



Example of a section of the "contract"

Coupon-mad

which was granted as a successful POPLA appeal, and turned on exactly the same facts/same appeal...

Therefore an appeal for the same date and time for 1 minute less must also succeed.

I have added a few words to the above to make it read more clearly.

alledge

should be

allege

You only have 2000 characters, not 2000 words, so remove waffle and filler words, e.g.:

I would also like to draw attention to

Silvercloud18

ParkingEye advise they offer a grace period of 10 minutes "OR MORE". As per reasons given in original appeal (poor surface, cars parking as and where they can due to no bays, queues to get out) the 15 minutes spent deciding whether to accept T&C's in this car park fall in to a reasonable grace period. This was also agreed by "Jamie Macrae" on a recent POPLA appeal #### also for Aire Street, on the same evening (DATE), which was granted as a successful POPLA appeal, and turned on exactly the same facts, that the time the driver spent in Aire Street was in a reasonable grace period. Therefore an appeal for the same date and time for 1 minute less must also succeed.

The pictures in the evidence pack are 2/3 years old. As shown by photos in the drivers original appeal signs have been removed/ heavily grafittied since these pictures were taken. Also ParkingEyes picture does also show the rubble around the site which makes it difficult to manoeuvre.


The "contract" supplied in ParkingEye's evidence pack has been scanned and sent in such a way that it is completely illegible so T&Cs with landowner cant be read at all.


ParkingEye's evidence pack showing where they allege the majority of signs are (back wall) are in fact as stated in my appeal behind/obstructed by vehicles. Again as stated in appeal they cant be read clearly. It is not acceptable to show stock pictures of a sign. This does not show them as the driver would see them. They have also not shown images of the signs, which are unlit, in the dark as it was for the driver.

Evidence has been given that the driver did not accept the T&C's, left within a reasonable period and found alternative parking, of which evidence has been provided in terms of parking receipts.




Think i still have about 300 characters left if anything needs adding.

Coupon-mad

You could add some words POPLA use themselves:

The "contract" supplied in ParkingEye's evidence pack has been scanned and sent in such a way that it is completely illegible so T&Cs with landowner cant be read at all. There is nothing to show when it expired or that the contract continues into perpetuity.

Is the contract with Elite Parking? If not, who? Elite Parking are not the landowner.

Silvercloud18

Did my picture link of the example of the contract come through? I can JUST about make out it is in fact with "Elite"

Coupon-mad

Great, yes I can see that.

Elite are not the landowner, they are another parking firm! Say that too!

Silvercloud18

Ah brilliant thanks I'll add that!! Be so glad when this is over they infuriate me

Silvercloud18

ParkingEye advise they offer a grace period of 10 minutes "OR MORE". As per reasons given in original appeal (poor surface, cars parking as and where they can due to no bays, queues to get out) the 15 minutes spent deciding whether to accept T&C's in this car park fall in to a reasonable grace period. This was also agreed by "Jamie Macrae" on a recent POPLA appeal #### also for Aire Street, on the same evening (DATE), which was granted as a successful POPLA appeal, and turned on exactly the same facts, that the time the driver spent in Aire Street was in a reasonable grace period. Therefore an appeal for the same date and time for 1 minute less must also succeed.

The pictures in the evidence pack are 3/4 years old. As shown by photos in the drivers original appeal signs have been removed/ heavily graffitied since these pictures were taken. Also ParkingEyes picture does also show the rubble around the site which makes it difficult to manoeuvre.


The "contract" supplied in ParkingEye's evidence pack has been scanned and sent in such a way that it is completely illegible past the first page so T&Cs with landowner cant be read at all. There is nothing to show when it expired or that the contract continues into perpetuity. The "contract" also seems to be with Elite who are another parking management company and not the landowner.


ParkingEye's evidence pack showing where they allege the majority of signs (back wall) are in fact as stated in my appeal behind/obstructed by vehicles. Again as stated in appeal they cant be read clearly by a driver. It is not acceptable to show stock pictures of a sign. This does not show them as the driver would see them. They have also not shown images of the signs, which are unlit, in the dark as it was for the driver.

Evidence has been given that the driver did not accept the T&C's, left within a reasonable period and found alternative parking, of which evidence has been provided in terms of parking receipts.


45 characters within word count so not much more I can fit in without removing something.....