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eco123

Network marketing never let anyone down; what does let them down: their own choices.

Ok, for a start the comment above is not practicable, I personally know several people who have, & indeed still are working the MLM system to perfection & as recommended, however, these same people are getting nowhere fast & it's zapping their finances.

The trouble is they believe they can succeed & like yourself (thebusinessbloke) they won't have a bad word said about MLM. One of the people in question has already lost his house & is continually in debt having to fork out for flyers & cd's & other promotional materials. These are all things his sponsor & the upline above tell him he 'needs' to progress.

So, please tell me how network marketing is failing someone who is as keen as mustard & follows all advice given.

Browntoa

no-one is ever going to make money at MLM unless you are in the first few layers, or set the things up

the same sort of e-books are available here for free

www.floodle.net

for example

http://www.floodle.net/extra/ebayinfo/niche-money-machine-ebook.html

http://www.floodle.net/extra/ebayinfo/sell_using_the_web.html

http://www.floodle.net/extra/ebayinfo/following-the-guru.html

don't get conned into these schemes that "will change you life"

I've got friends who have lost money using these sort of MLM systems, never one who has made a living out of it or made "millions"

the guru's who wax lyrical about these schemes have a (moneymaking) vested interest in praising them , I've got no interest either way about them, i don't use them and stand to make or lose nothing at all either way

Hardup_Hester

My explanation of my cynicism is as follows.

I have a friend who has a garage full of unsaleable products, the goods are unsaleable as he was recruited by a neighbour who has also has a similar amount of stock. The items are far and away more expensive than similar items available in local shops, so no one wants to purchase the items. The other reason is the fact that I was paid to appear at one of the 'sales seminars' as a high earner & was presented with a large cheque.
I think that is a fair enough explanation.
Also you have been involved in this business since 2005, the average 'bait time' is 7 to 10 years before disillusionment sets in.

Peter_Pan

Hardup_Hester wrote: »

My explanation of my cynicism is as follows.

Also you have been involved in this business since 2005, the average 'bait time' is 7 to 10 years before disillusionment sets in.

Well i don't feel so bad now it took us 5 years;) , i think those that get through the first 6 months to a year and beyond become "scared" then to admit to themselves its not working, you get told so many times at meetings that it just takes a bit more pushing or come away thinking it must be something we are doing wrong and what if you quit tomorrow and it might just have worked, or the next person you sponsor could be the Superstar that will take your Business to the next level and so on and so on. It takes real courage IMO to quit and face the "real" world again. I have some great friends still in various NM opportunities and everytime i talk to them its the same things are going absolutely great and then next time i hear they have moved to another opportunity or things are still going great but they haven't progressed any further, just putting more effort and money in.

NikkiP_2

eco123 wrote: »

Ok, for a start the comment above is not practicable, I personally know several people who have, & indeed still are working the MLM system to perfection & as recommended, however, these same people are getting nowhere fast & it's zapping their finances.

The trouble is they believe they can succeed & like yourself (thebusinessbloke) they won't have a bad word said about MLM. One of the people in question has already lost his house & is continually in debt having to fork out for flyers & cd's & other promotional materials. These are all things his sponsor & the upline above tell him he 'needs' to progress.

So, please tell me how network marketing is failing someone who is as keen as mustard & follows all advice given.

Two points on the above.
If they are operating it 'to perfection' they cant be losing money , and 2nd
I find it very hard to believe that the fact that someone lost their house and network marketing are linked in any way. THis is another example of someone who has had a bad exeprience ( which happens) or knows someone who has said they have had a bad experience and is jealous of those that have succeeded.

eco123

This is another example of someone who has had a bad exeprience ( which happens) or knows someone who has said they have had a bad experience and is jealous of those that have succeeded.

Are you for real?

That's the daftest comment I have heard throughout this thread yet!!!

If they are operating it 'to perfection' they cant be losing money

Well they are, I can assure you of that...hand over fist after following the 'guidance' (& I use that term loosely) from their mentors by buying the magical books & a whole host of other complete & utter mind-bending materials.

and 2nd
I find it very hard to believe that the fact that someone lost their house and network marketing are linked in any way

See the answer to the previous quote & its obvious!


If I had something to be jealous about I would say so. I won't mince my words. Anything else to add ???

thebusinessbloke

I observe that none of you 'un-believers' (lol) have accepted my challenge (see a few posts ago) to provide some factual evidence of your claims; or are you just heckling from the sidelines?

One might take you more seriously if you weren't just mouthing off.

Browntoa

I''m not "mouthing off"

unlike yourself, as I state in my reply, I have no interest either way in the schemes and are posting an open opinon

anyone with a basic understanding of maths can see that the MLM method quickly runs out of layers so there is no money to be made unless you are at the top

NikkiP_2

I think people are confusing MLM where there isn't a real product and Network Marketing. I totally agree that the 'pyramid' schemes are a con and do run out of layers etc and for these types you need to be in at the start. I agree with everything that has been said about these types.
But true Network Marketing with a company like Kleeneze ( and I'm not pushing that co) works if you sell the products. No one gets paid for introducing anybody. Commissions are only paid if real products are sold. And these are consumable products which everyone uses. Yes maybe more expensive than in some shops but thats a choice that people make.
And as for my comment about the loss of a house I just can't understand how anyone could spend enough on the 'rubbish' tapes , books etc to lose their house.

eco123

But true Network Marketing with a company like Kleeneze ( and I'm not pushing that co)

THIS IS PRECICELY THE COMPANY THAT HAS DRIVEN THE PEOPLE I KNOW INTO DESPERATION

No one gets paid for introducing anybody.

So, what is the meaning of residual income, where does it come from, & why is it pushed down their throats???

What exactly do you want, you guys that support MLM constantly contradict yourselves, you just keep dipping & diving trying to cover all the bases. The only evidence I need is that 95% (conservative estimation IMO) FAIL at MLM!

And as for my comment about the loss of a house I just can't understand how anyone could spend enough on the 'rubbish' tapes , books etc to lose their house.

Neither can I but the truth is they do, but not limited to tapes of course.

Tell me what proof you need & I will rise to the occasion.