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For a self-charging one, what sort of mileage would you have to do for it to be charging? We don't do enough distance driving to consider it, I think.
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apple_muncher said:For a self-charging one, what sort of mileage would you have to do for it to be charging? We don't do enough distance driving to consider it, I think.
With Hybrids, it "doesn't" depend on the amount of mileage you do at all. In fact, if you don't do much distance driving you would get a lot of mileage out of a Hybrid vehicle. They are great for any sort of driving but in my opinion, even just for say driving around town they are so economical. The Hybrid cars charge as you go along because they are what is known as "self-charging". What that means for those that are not sure is you drive the car on petrol and when the battery is charged it then drives the car on the batteries. When you have done X amount of miles and the batteries run out of charge the petrol will kick in automatically and the engine will start, then you are back to driving on petrol again and so on. With Hybrids, the mileage you get depends on how you drive the car as in "not" racing away from traffic lights because someone is impatient and wants to overtake you. With warmer weather, you would get more mileage on the electric side of a Hybrid because with colder weather it takes a while for the engine to warm up as it does with ordinary petrol/diesel cars.
It is not easy to explain but that's the gist of it with Hybrid vehicles. Unlike all-electric vehicles (EV's) where you plug those in to charge them up, do a certain amount of mileage and charge up again when needed. A lot of people with solar panels will have an all-electric car because they produce a lot of their electricity. I have no idea how much it would cost to fully charge up an electric vehicle but the bigger the batteries on the vehicle the more mileage you would get from them. Personally, it would worry me that we could run out of charge before we found the nearest EV charging station but that's just me. There are plenty of these charging stations up and down the country now where you pay to charge the batteries up while you wait. You can have an EV charging point put in at home and that electricity would be from your normal electricity tariff through your energy provider.
I hope the above is of some help to those that are interested.
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edwink said:Personally, it would worry me that we could run out of charge before we found the nearest EV charging station but that's just me.
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Thank you edwink! That explains it for me.As yet we couldn't have an all EV cos the car sits 80m from the house and across a road! No one on our estate could do it unless they fitted charging points in every single car parking space. And at every single garage. And I don't think they're about to do that!!!Or we could talk sweetly to the people in one of the end houses and use an extension lead...😆NST March lion #8; NSD ; MFW9/3/23 Whoop Whoop!!!3
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Edwink, that's a great post, thank you so much! As for needing to charge, I think the range is improving all the time - but my brother borrows his son's Tesla sometimes, and pointed out something important, for an all-EV car. Even if it can do the long journey (eg London to Merseyside, which is what he does) it's no good arriving at your destination with no charge - and his nearest charging point is 20 miles away, so he has to sit there for varying amounts of time, for it to charge up enough to be useful.
I have car-type gates by the side of my foot-gate at the front, so I could actually drive my car off the road and charge from my house, but it would be horrible - I'd rather go to the charging unit about a mile away. But my first choice would be a self charging hybrid.
I'm very hot! And so is the house - I went for a walk at about 8pm, and the house was sweltering to come back to. Hopefully, just one more night. Hope everyone manages to get some sleep. I've cleaned about two thirds of the shopping, letting it air out before putting it away, so it's not bad.
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Interesting, thank you edwink! Yes, I was worried about the distance between charges for an EV too, living so rurally. It's over 60 miles round trip to work so it would need to do plenty more than that for me to feel comfortable. Hybrid sounds sensible.
I'd not heard of that poem you mentioned KC, it's quite moving.5 -
As for the car, if I bought a 3 or 4 year old hybrid, and drove it as I think I'll drive it (locally, carefully, 2 or 3 times a week) it might do me for as long as I want to drive, I don't know. That's a bit far ahead to think of, but there's no harm in it.
The poem is quite something, isn't it, Cheery. Second World War, not the First, but just as poignant.2023: the year I get to buy a car4 -
We use this ant powder. It can also be used to dispatch ground wasps nests (but only at dusk, when they are all in). We have one by the front door that always looks as though it is in a it of a snow-storm, and another where they are finding their way into the kitchen since we extracted the honey. It is definitely an ant year, with mounds in the grass, by the raised beds and everywhere! I put it down to the magpies killing the song-birds so the balance is all out of kilter here.
Re EV - we also live rurally and have stayed with the diesel bigger car for the timebeing. It has two more years on its 3-service (one per year) plan to go. We have talked it through and currently feel that the battery life and non-standardisation between manufacturers is an issue for us (both potentially adding to cost). I have also driven a Toyota Prius (hybrid) hire care and was very impressed by the drive and the economy but not by the amount of batteries that it took and the sacrifice of boot space. However, this was a generation 1 hybrid and the technology moves on. We were talking about a lease-purchase EV (prefer a hybrid) so that we can trade in/up after three years rather than the outright purchase cost and replacement overhead falling to us.
I think if you are looking at a 2-3 year old EV @Karmacat I would be looking for the garage to put some sort of guarantee on the battery component, and making sure there is the space you need to passenger leg-room (potentially, for the future) and boot space. I'd also be taking into consideration the service overhead (far less wear on the "engine" but an annual check and things like brakes, wipers, air con and tyres need reviewing, preferably as part of a package - hence our lease consideration)
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Brilliant post, thank you Suffolk Lass. There's so much research I need to do! I've just been checking for local driving instructors who use automatics, and there aren't that many - there's only one that probably covers my town, for heaven's sake! One is enough, after all, if you connect well to the instructor.
Bit of a fail today on cleaning the rest of the shopping - but at least I reorganised the cupboards a bit, watered the container plants, and went on my healthy walk. I was hiding from the heat againI was also trapped in the house a little bit, as Virgin are currently installing cable broadband. I'm not very tempted by Virgin, they've caused me real problems in the past. We'll see.
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