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I don't know anyone friends of family who has room temp at 16c. Including my 75 years old mum.
Many have children and it will be used as much as necessary for them to be warm and comfortable. I don't spend 12 hours shift work depriving myself of a nice bath, long shower or seating in my shorts.
I don't see it as waste and you are have every right to be warm and comfortable.
cooking she reduced the gas on the stove to the smallest
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Just wanted to respond as a fellow expat. Been here 2 years now and love it. In most aspects I would say the UK is far more advanced than Australia, however the comparatively low wages, and ridiculous prices of housing and transport do leave many (especially in the London as well as high unemployment areas) financially strapped. In my eyes that is absolutely not acceptable when taking in a lodger, and for your own experience and quick integration into this amazing country, I would recommend getting out as soon as possible. Bearing in mind that it is Christmas in exactly one month from now, I think you need to come up with a plan pretty quickly. Do not spend Christmas there if you can avoid it. If you are desperate, there are house sitting websites flooded with offers for free accommodation over this period. Maybe use the opportunity to stay somewhere different, or check out a potential new area. Also check out house sharing websites. If your female, steer away from all male houseshares while you build your confidence. The bigger the house share, the less intimate and more relaxed it will generally be (providing it is high quality accommodation), and it's best to stick to people in your age group as they are most likely to share the same habits and hobbies. If I can give any advice, it's cut your losses as soon as possible (even if it means paying the landlord out for leaving early), and get on with this great experience that still awaits you. Best of luck.0
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OP - you don't need to live like this.
The LL can, it's her house and her choice but you also have a choice to move and that would be my option.
There are shared houses where you rent a room, some have bills included others bills are shared between everyone in the property (like a student let) so make sure you check each advert carefully.
You will still have your privacy in a HMO as these have locks on bedroom doors although there will be communal areas.
Speak to your friends, they may have local knowledge to help you.
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I would just like to add one thing.
This morning I got up to a bathroom of 8.7 degrees, and decided to delay my shower.
We have finally turned on the heating.
We did not realise how cool we choose to have the house until we went into a client's house last week and felt hot, it was set at 19 degrees!
We choose to wear jumpers inside instead of turning the heating up, mainly because we would both fall asleep if we sat down for any length of time in that sort of artificial heat!
I think our heating is set at around 16 degrees, we do not have the temperature on the dial, so we have to go by thermometers in the house.What is this life if, full of care, we have no time to stand and stare0 -
Crikey I wouldn't treat my lodgers like that! I always say whoever is home first to turn the heating up (thermostat on wall in hall), during the colder weather. I like to make sure that they are warm enough & there is plenty of hot water available.
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What is a healthy room temperature?
The basic level of warmth required for a healthy and well-dressed person is 18°C. This standard is recognized by the World Health Organization and is the minimum standard in the latest UK cold weather plan.
Here are some basic benchmarks for indoor temperatures:- > 24°C - cardiovascular risk
- 18-21°C - comfortable temperature
- 18°C - minimum for comfort
- 12-16°C - respiratory risk
- <12°C - cardiovascular risk
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Thanks everyone!I'm overwhelmed by the responses!
My landlady is still rather reluctant to put up the temperature and instead gave me a lecture on quilt tog and thermo clothings and underwear! I know she does want to help me stay warm (just not at more expenses to her).
I'm not posting to condemn her or her austere way of living, to each his own! I just want to get an idea as to how people do it in here (though she constantly referred to her way as here in britain people...) as I'm having a hard time believing that most people would choose to wear 3 layers of thermoheat clothes and lie under 2-3 quilts & blankets during winter. I stirred in bed frequently so I just think it'd be rather restrictive with that many layers! Plus you don't just stay in bed do you! And how much would you save on bills compared to spending a bit more to be comfotable at home and in your sleep?
I spent a harsh winter in the US with thick snow till March and I didn't need more than a quilt and a throw when I went to bed and could move around doing my things without constantly trying to warm up my feet and hands. And in Australia (albeit milder winter) I was comfortable in my small bed room with a small heater (and it far from bankrupted me!). I was thinking the standard of living here is nlt that great if you cant be comfortable at home!
Of course, there are different "lifestyles" but I'm only concerned about what the majority does!
And I know I can always leave, but I want to make sure I won't run into another situation like this, and in any cases, I have another month of cold winter to get through before I can spend my cozy nights elsewhere so am I within my rights to ask for more heating???
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lildoonbuggy wrote: »Just wanted to respond as a fellow expat. Been here 2 years now and love it. In most aspects I would say the UK is far more advanced than Australia, however the comparatively low wages, and ridiculous prices of housing and transport do leave many (especially in the London as well as high unemployment areas) financially strapped. In my eyes that is absolutely not acceptable when taking in a lodger, and for your own experience and quick integration into this amazing country, I would recommend getting out as soon as possible. Bearing in mind that it is Christmas in exactly one month from now, I think you need to come up with a plan pretty quickly. Do not spend Christmas there if you can avoid it. If you are desperate, there are house sitting websites flooded with offers for free accommodation over this period. Maybe use the opportunity to stay somewhere different, or check out a potential new area. Also check out house sharing websites. If your female, steer away from all male houseshares while you build your confidence. The bigger the house share, the less intimate and more relaxed it will generally be (providing it is high quality accommodation), and it's best to stick to people in your age group as they are most likely to share the same habits and hobbies. If I can give any advice, it's cut your losses as soon as possible (even if it means paying the landlord out for leaving early), and get on with this great experience that still awaits you. Best of luck.0
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And you are not a tenant so no tenancy agreement as far as i know, as a lodger, which you are there are very few rules.
Good luckmake the most of it, we are only here for the weekend.
and we will never, ever return.0
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