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UKCPS Settlement Offer

Hello,

I received a letter from County Court to which I submitted my defence. They suggested it go to small claims / mitigation.

Last night I received a letter from UKCPS with a settlement offer of £125 (£25 more than the original fine).

Should I reply to them? Or reply directing to the court? I was told to avoid mitigation as they are likely to make me pay the fine.

Can someone shed some light on what I should do please?

Totally new to this kind of thing.

Thanks in advance
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  • System
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    They suggested it go to small claims / mitigation.

    All small claims are offered mediation and all mediation is a waste of time as there is no common ground.
    Last night I received a letter from UKCPS with a settlement offer of £125 (£25 more than the original fine)

    They send this prior to have to pay the hearing fee. Have you had a court date yet?
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  • I haven't got a court date yet, I still have a week to reply to the court.

    Should I select I don't agree to the small claims mediation service?

    Do I need to reply to UKCPS?

    thanks for responding
  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,556 Forumite
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    not sure what this in relation to, however as you refer to a fine you have much to learn.
    Wet ride you get a parking charge in the first place, and what did you say to the landowner?
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • the parking fine was for staying in a private car park for longer than an hour, however the signage states something about 2 hours and is very unclear, which doesn't follow the ruling of
    that any signage present on the site even if seen by a motorist is not clear or legible in its construction, and therefore not able to form a contract. The Defendant brings to the attention of the Court A0QZ7658 UKCPS v Anonymous 4/7/14 at Bradford, and A3QZ1305 UKCPS v Anonymous 2/7/14 at Sheffield. The Judges in these cases found that UKCPS Ltd signs were ‘gibberish, too wordy and with conflicting terms’. The Defendant submits that the signs on this site fall into the same description and are therefore unable to form a contract even if seen.


    They wouldn't let me defend the claim and took it to county court to which I submitted a defence. Used relevant case law to submit my claim.
  • beamerguy
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    I haven't got a court date yet, I still have a week to reply to the court.

    Should I select I don't agree to the small claims mediation service?

    Do I need to reply to UKCPS?

    thanks for responding

    SAY NO TO MEDIATION

    As IamEmanresu says ... there is no common ground
    IE: to get common ground you must be in front of a judge
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 43,822 Forumite
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    Have you got yourself copies of the signage which you are relying on to support your defence? If not, it’s important to get them now.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,556 Forumite
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    how much longer was the vehicle in the car park for?
    who's car park was it?
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • Is that all you said in your defence?
  • Ten minutes longer. UKCPS run it, but unclear who owns the car park
  • System
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    Ten minutes longer. UKCPS run it

    There is a common understanding that 10 minutes is within the "grace" period so there is no basis for a claim. Looks like they will be dropping this one - or write to them with a "drop hands" offer which if they refuse will be shown at court when it comes to costs.
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