Refusing to pay money owed to eBay

RMS2

GabbaGabbaHey wrote: »

But it's not the OP's money. It's eBay's money which the OP has defrauded them of.

The money belongs to the OP. Ebay gave some money to the buyer and the OP disagrees with this.

In the UK, when to people disagree, it can go to court to have a judge interpret the case and the law.

For some reason (have a guess) ebay does not like to go to court before a judge. Perhaps their practices would not stand up tp scrutiny in UK courts?

RMS2

GabbaGabbaHey wrote: »

The OP signed up to eBay's Terms & Conditions when they joined. They have now been through a process (which they agreed to as part of the Ts&Cs), the outcome of which is that they owe eBay £365.

They are refusing to pay that money, as a result of which eBay is out of pocket by £365.

In what way has the OP "not defrauded anyone"?

Any T&C contract details can be tested in a UK court. For some reason ebay doesn't want to test them. I wonder why.

RMS2

soolin wrote: »

How do you make that out? Does that mean my gas bill isn't a debt then because only the gas people have asked for it and they haven't been to court to enforce it?

Absolutely. You really do not understand the law.

If your supplier (let's say British Gas) said tomorrow, you owe use £10,233 and we're taking on your next direct debit, would you go, okay I legally owe it because you have sent me a bill?

No, of course not, you would dispute and a court would ned up deciding if BG weren't reasonable.

Christ, just because some one says you owe me money, doesn't mean they are right. Ebay knows this, which is why they don't go to court.

soolin

RMS2 wrote: »

Absolutely. You really do not understand the law.

If your supplier (let's say British Gas) said tomorrow, you owe use £10,233 and we're taking on your next direct debit, would you go, okay I legally owe it because you have sent me a bill?

No, of course not, you would dispute and a court would ned up deciding if BG weren't reasonable.

Christ, just because some one says you owe me money, doesn't mean they are right. Ebay knows this, which is why they don't go to court.

I believe you misunderstand the scenario here but as the OP appears to have left the thread now it seems pointless to continue with the same argument.

soolin

scd3scd4 wrote: »

I assume the "take in" was explained. The OP may have been ok with refunding the money if they were not getting rammed with both P&P costs.


Anyway they are not getting the money back and the OP just makes use of a families/friends account. Anyone for a nice cup of tea??

If you read the OP it suggests that OP did not mention the alteration. As for using a friends account, sure, they will almost certainly get away with it for a while as long as they let their friend do all the selling entirely in their name and use the friends paypal address, but if they ever want to use it themselves and use any of the same info then their friend loses their account as well.

scd3scd4

soolin wrote: »

If you read the OP it suggests that OP did not mention the alteration. As for using a friends account, sure, they will almost certainly get away with it for a while as long as they let their friend do all the selling entirely in their name and use the friends paypal address, but if they ever want to use it themselves and use any of the same info then their friend loses their account as well.

I am no expert as a man but I would think most wedding dresses have been altered in some way.


My son, daughter, wife and mum all have an account. Its no big deal.

custardy

scd3scd4 wrote: »

I am no expert as a man but I would think most wedding dresses have been altered in some way.


My son, daughter, wife and mum all have an account. Its no big deal.

It obviously was for the buyer?

scd3scd4

custardy wrote: »

It obviously was for the buyer?

Then don't buy a second hand item that for the vast majority woman alter.


The obvious answer is buy new and have it made to measure.

custardy

scd3scd4 wrote: »

Then don't buy a second hand item that for the vast majority woman alter.


The obvious answer is buy new and have it made to measure.

Yes lets stop selling 2nd hand goods on a site set up to sell 2nd hand goods too?
Whites not really my colour anyway.
How about list your items accurately and truthfully?

scd3scd4

custardy wrote: »

Yes lets stop selling 2nd hand goods on a site set up to sell 2nd hand goods too?
Whites not really my colour anyway.
How about list your items accurately and truthfully?

You are exaggerating. Some items need a bit more caution than others. And if you want it shipped to Greece you better be sure.


Did the buyer think a made to measure wedding dress would fit her without any alterations. That she would be a body double........


Accurately and truthfully................eeerrr like a video maybe?