Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

gfplux

The Times weekly email helps understand how the false Brexit came about.
It is all because David Davis is being ignored by Theresa May

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When is a Brexit secretary not a Brexit secretary? All cabinet ministers compromise on their true, unrestrained beliefs now and then. That is the nature of collective ministerial responsibility.

But has any minister in recent times compromised on so much, and so publicly, as David Davis? Remember that in the short few weeks between the EU referendum and Mr Davis's remarkable resurrection as Brexit secretary he set out his "Brexit economic strategy for Britain" in an article for ConservativeHome. It includes his infamous claim that before the end of the two-year Article 50 period the UK would "negotiate a free trade area massively larger than the EU."

Read all 2,050 words and it is clear that almost none of Mr Davis's aspirations have translated into practice. Part of that is a consequence of grand Brexiteer claims colliding with reality. It was simply never going to be the case that the EU would allow the UK to begin negotiating its own free trade deals when it was still a member of the bloc.

But another reason is that Mr Davis has at almost every turn been blocked by Theresa May from pursuing his own vision of Brexit. Early in the negotiations Mr Davis and Michel Barnier, officially his counterpart, held regular joint press conferences. They are rare now. Why? Because Mr Davis is not really the UK's Brexit negotiator. He is a Potemkin secretary of state. The UK's Brexit negotiations are being conducted by Mrs May herself and Olly Robbins, her Europe adviser.

Leave aside for a moment the complexities of the UK's backstop proposal (of which much more below). The crux of Mr Davis's "will he/won't he" resignation dance today is that Mr Davis is not the negotiator and the talks are far too far down Mr Robbins's track for that to change now. Of course Mr Davis quitting could have had cataclysmic political consequences for Mrs May. And it was little wonder that friends of Mr Barnier told The Times last night that they felt pity for Mr Davis over his treatment. But pity is not the emotion a former SAS reservist wants his enemies to feel. In truth Mr Davis has been irrelevant in Brussels for a long time. And Mrs May getting the better of him today might mean he becomes irrelevant in Westminster too.
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iro

Looks like the 'backstop' will be rejected by the EU (good) GE here we come.

mayonnaise

iro wrote: »

Looks like the 'backstop' will be rejected by the EU (good) GE here we come.

Nah...we don't need an election every time the EU rejects the UK Government's latest airy-fairy idea.
We'd be having elections every week! :rotfl:

ukcarper

gfplux wrote: »

Name me three benefits to the EU of a close relationship with the U.K. as COMPARED with a distant one.

Please help me understand.

Maintaining export trade to us at level it is now, cooperation with our security services and no disruption to supply chains of thier manufacturing companies.

iro

https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/970848/Brexit-news-galileo-eu-european-union-esa-falklands-ascension-satellite

Cutting off your nose to spite your face, what a pathetic institution the EU is!

iro

mayonnaise wrote: »

Nah...we don't need an election every time the EU rejects the UK Government's latest airy-fairy idea.
We'd be having elections every week! :rotfl:

Given the blue and yellow flag attached to your profile I am not suprised you are less than keen on a GE.

iro

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44378201

Post Brexit our immigration policies must remove those who are here illegally immediately, this must include those from EU countries.

Enterprise_1701C

iro wrote: »

https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/970848/Brexit-news-galileo-eu-european-union-esa-falklands-ascension-satellite

Cutting off your nose to spite your face, what a pathetic institution the EU is!

I believe the software has been written by a British company too.

Thrugelmir

ukcarper wrote: »

Maintaining export trade to us at level it is now, cooperation with our security services and no disruption to supply chains of thier manufacturing companies.

The ability of Eire to sell it's agricultural produce along with exporting Dell computers into the UK. While allowing internet shoppers to receive ordered goods from UK based distibution centres (Amazon).

iro

When you read some of the extreme EUphilic nonsense on here it is worth remembering just how many clouds are on the EU's horizon...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/01/brussels-change-calamity-italy-eu-austerity

'One poll found that more than half of those under 45 would vote to leave'

Good for them, let us all in Europe use our populism to kill off the sick beast that the EU is!