Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

ukcarper

gfplux wrote: »

Why would a close relationship with Britain benefit the EU.

If Britain had a distant relationship (I mean even more distant than being a reluctant member for +40 years) Britains would still buy EU stuff.

Just look at Britains distant relationship with Chine both politically and distance but consumers just can not get enough of Chinese products.

If you can't see that a close relationship would benefit both sides it shows how blinkered you are.

Herzlos

ukcarper wrote: »

If you can't see that a close relationship would benefit both sides it shows how blinkered you are.

I don't think he said he can't see that a close relationship would benefit; but Mays red lines rule it most close relationships.


He's saying that the EU is less bothered about conceding to get a close relationship than we are. We'll still be just off their coast and buy a lot of their goods.



Leaving but maintaining a close relationship seems to be a bit of a contradiction. They won't let us be virtually in the EU, but with one-way free movement and no contributions.

ukcarper

Herzlos wrote: »

I don't think he said he can't see that a close relationship would benefit; but Mays red lines rule it most close relationships.


He's saying that the EU is less bothered about conceding to get a close relationship than we are. We'll still be just off their coast and buy a lot of their goods.



Leaving but maintaining a close relationship seems to be a bit of a contradiction. They won't let us be virtually in the EU, but with one-way free movement and no contributions.

What does "why would a close relationship with Britain benefit EU" mean then.

I don't see it as a contradiction and I don't think anyone is expecting one way free movement, it seems to me a lot of people don't understand the meaning of compromise.

mayonnaise

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Amazon committed to post brexit Britain with plans for 2,500 new jobs.

Just hope that in a post brexit Britian, we can get some tax out of them and stop the dodgy work practices.

We don't need to wait for post brexit Britian to change our tax policy or our approach to dodgy work practices.
We can do that right now and we could have done it at any time while being in the EU.

iro

Some people need to remember that 17.4 million voted because of something.

Graham_Devon

mayonnaise wrote: »

We don't need to wait for post brexit Britian to change our tax policy or our approach to dodgy work practices.
We can do that right now and we could have done it at any time while being in the EU.

Quite right. Disingenuous, but right.

We can change our tax policy. But Amazon can just as easily move their accounting to any other EU state and still trade here - therefore making our tax policy irrelevant if they don't agree with it.

Once we are out of the EU, I would hope that isn't possible.

iro

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Quite right. Disingenuous, but right.

We can change our tax policy. But Amazon can just as easily move their accounting to any other EU state and still trade here - therefore making our tax policy irrelevant if they don't agree with it.

Once we are out of the EU, I would hope that isn't possible.

An excellent point.

Arklight

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Quite right. Disingenuous, but right.

We can change our tax policy. But Amazon can just as easily move their accounting to any other EU state and still trade here - therefore making our tax policy irrelevant if they don't agree with it.

Once we are out of the EU, I would hope that isn't possible.

That would be lovely Graham, if it weren't for the fact the EU is about to drop the hammer on stateless tech firms, and the UK politicians you and your Brexit loving brethren would vote for tomorrow, would make Britain into a defacto unregulated casino.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/mar/21/facebook-google-and-amazon-to-pay-fair-tax-under-eu-plans

iro

Arklight wrote: »

That would be lovely Graham, if it weren't for the fact the EU is about to drop the hammer on stateless tech firms, and the UK politicians you and your Brexit loving brethren would vote for tomorrow, would make Britain into a defacto unregulated casino.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/mar/21/facebook-google-and-amazon-to-pay-fair-tax-under-eu-plans

Brilliant Brexit we can either be Singapore or Monte Carlo.

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

That's an oxymoron - if Amazon trade here then UK tax policy is highly relevant whether they agree with it or not.

Trade isn't taxed. Profits are.