Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Herzlos

cogito wrote: »

What is the EU doing to help solve these problems? Not much as far as I can see.

What can it do?

cogito

Herzlos wrote: »

What can it do?

Are you being serious? The EU that you adore so unquestioningly is unable to help one of its members.

Fiscal union would be a start. But that would mean solving the great contradictions of the euro and the Germans, who are one of its few beneficiaries, can't allow that.

Herzlos

cogito wrote: »

Are you being serious? The EU that you adore so unquestioningly is unable to help one of its members.

Fiscal union would be a start. But that would mean solving the great contradictions of the euro and the Germans, who are one of its few beneficiaries, can't allow that.

I thought Brexiteers we're outraged at the idea of fiscal union?

I don't adore the EU either. I just think it's better than going it alone.

cogito

Herzlos wrote: »

I thought Brexiteers we're outraged at the idea of fiscal union?

I don't adore the EU either. I just think it's better than going it alone.

Why would you think that? The UK has been in a very successful fiscal union for three centuries.

ben501

iro wrote: »

As a bit of fun thought we could start a Brexit playlist it does not matter if you are in the words of Matthew Parris a 'moaning remainaic' or a 'gammon' or a young lexiteer or any of the diverse individuals of every religion, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, religion.... that comprised the 17.4 million brexit voters (Brexit has been the single most uniting democratic act in history)..

One for the Project Fear stories
https://youtu.be/3DAR7qwvJA8?t=40s

buglawton

cogito wrote: »

Why would you think that? The UK has been in a very successful fiscal union for three centuries.

And that’s the difference. The UK and US each have single currencies, a single central bank and a single government that’s responsible for the countrys finances and for reconciling regional disparities. If that government gets it wrong there’s a simple and mostly transparent system for voting that administration out, to let a better team take charge.

Now look at the EU/Euro. Can you see whats wrong with this picture?

iro

ben501 wrote: »

One for the Project Fear stories
https://youtu.be/3DAR7qwvJA8?t=40s

Brilliant!

And here is another one (with the 'whiff of gammon' as a contributor might say although I am far more likely to be called a tropical fruit that grows on palm trees myself!)

UK radio 4 theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF7kzj4lCnE

Given that Bercow has denied us Big Ben on the big day, I suggest this is played at the 'third country' moment.

vivatifosi

Does anyone have a copy of today's Sunday Times?

I'd like to hear a bit more about the lead story about the No Deal dossier.

TIA

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

vivatifosi wrote: »

Does anyone have a copy of today's Sunday Times?

I'd like to hear a bit more about the lead story about the No Deal dossier.

TIA

I just read it - government ran three scenarios - in all but the best case Uk started running out of food and medicine within days

Ballard

I’ve only seen the headlines but even as a remainer I don’t think that it will get as bad as the worst case scenario painted. It’s not completely out of the question but unlikely.

I see that Farage is now saying that he never said that we would necessarily be better off once we leave. A stark contrast to what he was spouting previously. Many leavers claim that the main/sole reason that they voted to leave was to get away from the ‘tyranny’ of Brussels. That’s all well and good but if we end up being significantly poorer I suspect that many will be angry that the NHS, schools etc will be worse off. I’m no farmer but when the EU subsidies stop I don’t see how prices can stay at their current level without government assistance.

Fortunately for me, my son leaves school next year and I have a decent job so if there are financial ill effects I’ll be cushioned to an extent.