Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

wunferall

Herzlos wrote: »

And did you read either article?

Basically April to April this year was up a bit due to new models (so refreshed showroom stock and demonstraters), but up by less than half of the previous years decline, and the industry outlook is still pretty bleak. Some 81% of our car/engine output is for export so relying on a good trade deal. Domestic demand is still weakening.

But one number in isolation is better. Go Brexit!

And yet pro-remain detractors have been doing this continually since before the referendum in their desperation to prove that Brexit is a bad idea, as in earlier attempted "Project Fear" stories suggesting the slowing of car production after the previous year's record high. *News flash* It isn't working, because too much of the evidence so far proves the opposite.


For those remainers determined to suggest the EU is doing so much better than the UK based on recent statistics, how do you explain the EU's unemployment level being twice that of the UK's?
Eurozone = 8.5%, UK = 4.2%.

For those remainers determined to suggest the EU is doing so much better than the UK based on recent statistics, how do you explain the EU's slowdown in growth whilst the UK's is rising?
What do you say to the EU's manufacturing PMI falling whilst the UK's is rising?

For those remainers determined to suggest the EU is doing so much better than the UK based on recent statistics how do you explain the EU's inflation rising, supposedly by 0.7% in May whilst the UK's is falling?

No doubt the usual suspects will try to take this post as alleged evidence that I am saying the UK is doing fantastically well but the EU are somehow doomed; no I am not. (I suspect this paragraph will be roundly ignored by the afore-mentioned.)

I am taking a balanced view and showing that not everything is a bed of rose petals anywhere. The UK is doing just fine thank you, and this despite what has been (in the opinion of many) an ongoing and prolonged campaign to try and worry the country into reversing a democratically-decided vote.

iro

To true Wunferall...

More comedy gold from the 'cambridgestayers':

https://www.cambridgestays.org.uk/news/launching-the-peoples-vote-campaign/

'In Cambridge another dozen supporters joined us in the afternoon, and our stall on Market Square was kept busy all day!!!8230;by the time we finished at 3 pm we had almost run out of leaflets! One of our members also held a People!!!8217;s Vote stall in Newmarket, the first time such a stall has been held there since the referendum in 2016, where they had a very positive reaction from many of those they spoke with.'

Wow another dozen.....so that makes the original two dozen.....plus another dozen....which makes 36 wow!:rotfl:

Don't get me wrong I am huge fan of the duodecimal (just to confirm all the remainaics prejudices I remember predecimalisation), but this fetish for the number 12 is surely verbotem in the decimal 'paradise' of the EU?:rotfl:

And to think that 17.4 million voted to leave .....

'almost' ran out of leaflets:rotfl:

I hope they were made from recyclable paper.

'one of our members. in Newmarket :rotfl:

What is this a new sitcom 'the only remainer in the villiage'.:rotfl:

iro

gfplux wrote: »

Your throw away remark definitely beats my throw away remark.

I bet you can back yours up with voting figures while I can only say that if young people in Europe are anything like the young people in Britain, sadly they hardly care.

Based on Cambridge, based on the age of the people in the photos, based upon the fact that Cambridge was heavily remain,

I agree with gfplux, the young people 'hardly care'.

Alternatively they might just have accepted the result of the single largest democratic vote in the UK's history.

gfplux

iro wrote: »

[/B]This seems to bear out your view that 'young people in Britain, sadly they hardly care.'

Look at the picture:eek:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-43756531

Yes it is very sad.

iro

gfplux wrote: »

Yes it is very sad.

Perhaps they have a greater respect for a democratic decision?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt5gFCiouHE

I do think that the various surveys about how the young voted in the referendum were skewed by peer pressure.

For example liking a brexit FB post would lead to unfriending and so on....now that I find sad.

Herzlos

cogito wrote: »

If you think that the EU retaliating against the US is a benefit for the UK, you're the one who can't be helped.

I'd much rather have the EU behind us in a trade dispute with the US. Merkel and Macron will both tell Trump he's being an expletive. May won't but you wouldn't here her muffled voice from being so far up his bum.

Herzlos

wunferall wrote: »

For those remainers determined to suggest the EU is doing so much better than the UK based on recent statistics, how do you explain the EU's unemployment level being twice that of the UK's?
Eurozone = 8.5%, UK = 4.2%.

Because the numbers are calculated differently. We hide a lot more unemployed than most of the EU.

I don't have the answers to the rest offhand, but I suspect selective reporting is a large factor .

I am taking a balanced view and showing that not everything is a bed of rose petals anywhere. The UK is doing just fine thank you, and this despite what has been (in the opinion of many) an ongoing and prolonged campaign to try and worry the country into reversing a democratically-decided vote.

Sure you are.

iro

Herzlos wrote: »

Because the numbers are calculated differently. We hide a lot more unemployed than most of the EU.

I don't have the answers to the rest offhand, but I suspect selective reporting is a large factor .



Sure you are.

Citation please

Figures are calculated according to ILO methodolgy across the OECD

In addition the UK has one of the highest participation rates in the Labour market of the world.

https://data.oecd.org/emp/labour-force-participation-rate.htm

Who can blame the Italians when you understand that only 17.3% of their young people are in employment.

https://data.oecd.org/emp/employment-rate-by-age-group.htm#indicator-chart

This is the real tragedy of the EU that apologists such as Adonis and Soros should be concerned about, the death of a future, the death of aspiration!

How about caring about the future of young Europeans BEFORE opening the borders to potentially millions of economic migrants?

Graham_Devon

Herzlos wrote: »

I'd much rather have the EU behind us in a trade dispute with the US. Merkel and Macron will both tell Trump he's being an expletive. May won't but you wouldn't here her muffled voice from being so far up his bum.

I'd much rather simply not be in a trade dispute with the US. Which is where I assumed the EU were going to be considering they were suggesting it's unreasonable , protectionist and only going to hurt US citizens. If they think that, why have they done the same?!

Let trump do what he want's. We don't have to automatically do the same in a titt for tatt argument.

Ballard

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Let trump do what he want's. We don't have to automatically do the same in a titt for tatt argument.

That's true. Fortunately none of my friends and family work in the steel industry so why should I care.