Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

gfplux

So the Brexiteers who support a false Brexit may not have the Italian problem help them. Or so Bloomber says this morning.

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As Bloomberg reports today, the EU only has to look at the political crisis in Italy to remind its 27 governments why it should stick to its principles in the Brexit talks. The success of two populist parties, the anti-establishment Five Star Movement and the anti-immigrant League, both euroskeptics to varying degrees, might make it even harder for the U.K. to win its Brexit arguments. Now more than any time since the Brexit process began, the EU cant let leaving look more attractive that staying.
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gfplux

What is the definition of a false Brexiteer, answer one who supports a false Brexit,

Rinoa

gfplux wrote: »

What is the definition of a false Brexiteer, answer one who supports a false Brexit,

Have you applied for Luxenbourg citizenship yet?

Graham_Devon

Tromking wrote: »

So are Brussels racists and xenophobes?

Exactly what I was just about to say!!!!

kabayiri

Moby wrote: »

I'm just saying everytime there's an EU crisis, the usual suspects start shouting the odds! What gets me is all this excited doom mongering for the EU by the naive canon fodder foot soldiers of Mogg and Johnson will backfire. The poor sorts have no idea what will hit them when we go all free trade. That's not hypocritical imo, I've always said it.

Weird innit.

Whenever an EU state is doing well, it's all down to the magnificence of the mighty EU institution.

But...whenever there is a local problem, then oh it must be them thick Northern Englanders or the Italian gangsta crew or les ami du Marine.

Yeah right.

Thrugelmir

Originally Posted by Moby
I'm just saying everytime there's an EU crisis

There's no crisis just the same old issues resurfacing. Can kicking only works for so long.

iro

Moby wrote: »

I'm just saying everytime there's an EU crisis, the usual suspects start shouting the odds! What gets me is all this excited doom mongering for the EU by the naive canon fodder foot soldiers of Mogg and Johnson will backfire. The poor sorts have no idea what will hit them when we go all free trade. That's not hypocritical imo, I've always said it.

As opposed to the 'naive canon fodder' of Soros, Blair, Adonis...

There is just doom in Italy, Greece and Spain if you are young looking for a future no need for
'excited doom mongering'.

Good to see POTUS teaching the EU a few manners, as they say in Washington no 'a la carte' when it comes to state subsidies for French farmers and German manufacturers.

cogito

mayonnaise wrote: »

Regarding the Italian thing and the tendency of the Europhobes to blame the EU for all Italy's ills....a bit more balanced view in this article:



Ain't that the truth...:)
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/30/italy-brussels-descent-abyss-eu-economics

I don't see any tendency to blame the EU for Italy's ills. The Italians have largely brought their situation upon themselves including ditching the lira for a currency which they were unfit to join.

As it is, their economy is stuffed. If they were to leave the euro, it would still be stuffed.

Thrugelmir

Originally Posted by mayonnaise
Regarding the Italian thing and the tendency of the Europhobes to blame the EU for all Italy's ills....a bit more balanced view in this article:

The EU since the creation of the Eurozone. Has not implemented a coherent fiscal policy. Italy now borrows 10 year money at 3% while the Germans enjoy 0.34%. That's a huge disparity which results in an ever widening divide.

Moby

iro wrote: »

As opposed to the 'naive canon fodder' of Soros, Blair, Adonis...

There is just doom in Italy, Greece and Spain if you are young looking for a future no need for
'excited doom mongering'.

Good to see POTUS teaching the EU a few manners, as they say in Washington no 'a la carte' when it comes to state subsidies for French farmers and German manufacturers.

I see Liam Fox's dash across the Atlantic a few weeks ago has had little effect on Trumps decision-making regarding steel tarrifs. There will be no special deals for us folks; there is no great free trade future for us out there which will enrich us all. There will be a cold world of fierce competition and what will our Govmt do to survive in it, it will make us 'more competitive' and what does that mean in reality?......... a race to the bottom in working conditions for the majority of us while a select few at the top will take advantage of deregulation and prosper quite happily. We'll be importing rubbish American food while giving them access to our NHS 'market'. Welcome to your future children of Britain this is the legacy your Brexiteer elders have left you!