Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Arklight

Pauciloquent_1 wrote: »

The one mentioning that first was your co-remainer Herzlos.

So just maybe you should instead for once try debating the topic instead.
Oh and in UK English we tend to say "racist", not "racialist".

Do we indeed.

http://www.montypython.net/scripts/minehead.php

Pauciloquent_1_2

Herzlos wrote: »

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I see where you're coming from, but I just don't see offhand how we can capitalize on what the rest of the world is doing, whilst shutting ourselves off from it. I don't have a great deal of visibility into robotics ATM so I could be wrong.

Far from "shutting ourselves off from it" we will be embracing it.
Here's what are seen as the countries leading the way in AI.
https://www.futuresplatform.com/blog/5-countries-leading-way-ai-artificial-intelligence-machine-learning

Pauciloquent_1_2

Arklight wrote: »

Do we indeed.

http://www.montypython.net/scripts/minehead.php

Yes.
Did it take you all day to find your Monty Python example posted on a blog in 2014?

Herzlos

How is this acceptable? When will we have that review into institutionalized Islamophobia in the Tory party?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-candidate-suspended-islamophobic-post-12461046

Herzlos

Pauciloquent_1 wrote: »

Far from "shutting ourselves off from it" we will be embracing it.
Here's what are seen as the countries leading the way in AI.
https://www.futuresplatform.com/blog/5-countries-leading-way-ai-artificial-intelligence-machine-learning

So what are we doing to boost research collaboration with China, Japan, the US or Germany?

What are we embracing?

kabayiri

Herzlos wrote: »

So what are we doing to boost research collaboration with China, Japan, the US or Germany?

What are we embracing?

Just look at what is happening, I say.

Look at who is investing in the research parks around Cambridge.

Look at who has expressed most interest in the Graphene labs up here in Manchester.

Look at where many of the post-grad researchers who work in the labs come from. It isn't hard. I can tell you which buses they catch

Look at the number of patents filed in a technology we consider ourselves a leader in, and who is filing them.

There are ample examples where country A has done all the ground work and yet country B has been the one to prosper.

We need to be singular; focussed; and persistent; to become pre-eminent players in these new markets. Forget HS2. That's not going to create the next global business opportunity. This idea about some benevolent sharing for all of mankind is for an episode of Star Trek.

buglawton

Pauciloquent_1 wrote: »

Yes there are far bigger changes going on in the world just a few of which are immediately obvious, such as the onward rise of alternative fuels to power our vehicles (what will happen with oil then?) or the continuing rise of AI replacing jobs not just in manufacturing but in many other areas.
Forbes stated that a PCW study recently suggested that 38% of all USA jobs are at high risk of being replaced by AI over the next 15 years; there's nothing to suggest that the UK or EU will be much different.

It's fairly obvious that the EU brush what they can under the carpet and even when issues become pressing (see migrants; internal divisions; the Euro and more) rather than find a solution to a problem it normally has a few bob thrown at it to ease the problem short-term in the hope that the problem then resolves itself which of course it rarely does.
Or it takes years of wrangling before a decision is reached.
I mean, even their budget takes ages to agree and this every seven years; trade agreements can take ten years!
That's what happens when you have so many different needs, opinions, cultures and priorities all clamouring for their own individual say.

The UK might not be perfect but IMHO it is much better-placed to face an uncertain future if it has the ability to react speedily to changes and to implement those changes alone, rather than rely upon being a part of a ponderous group with conflicting interests.

This made me think of the Boris compulsory extra lorry mirrors law, inspired by Londons terrible record of lorry blind spots causing cyclist being killed. That law was blocked/delayed much by the EU due to the need for it to first get agreement from all EU countries.

gfplux

kabayiri wrote: »

For me, it's about extrapolation, ie where things are going in the future.

Not just product development, but changing expectations in the emerging markets. We need to better understand these to tap in.

I used to buy stuff off a pretty savvy Chinese business student. He obviously came from a family with new wealth, that was clear.

He was also clear about where he expected to be working...in South America. He made a clear case as to why it was that place rather than Europe which was the next big market.

He could be wrong, but there was nothing wrong with the ambition.

What disappointed me about the Brexit campaigning, was all this talk about why we should be concerned about losing people who can pick fruit and veg .... as if that is going to drive our future prosperity. Where was the ambition?

There are far far bigger changes going on in the world, and somehow we still dwell on this insular view that being inside the EU will keep us all cosy and warm. I really don't think it will.

The EU could lose a lot of time and energy trying to fix that car crash of a common currency. (That's if they overcome the fallout from the refugee handling disaster).

So you should have mixed feelings about the new trade deal signed between the EU and Mexico. This is replacing and updating the existing deal.

http://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/countries-and-regions/countries/mexico/

Tromking

Latest instalment of the TM fudgathon on the customs union today. Sooner or later she will need to decide on who shes going to upset with this. Both scenarios have epic consequences for our politics in my view.

gfplux

Tromking wrote: »

The perennial problem for the Eurozone.
Germany!!!8217;s penchant for selling shed loads of gear to everyone else coupled with the German consumers reticence to reciprocate will become toxic going forward.

So the perennial problem of the British consumer not preferring British produced goods is a good thing is it.