Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Herzlos

iro wrote: »

Very funny interview with Piers Morgan.


JC can handle 'constructive ambiguity', DA's attempt turned into a farce.

Yeah she's hopeless. Which makes me think the Tory lead is a sign of anti-la our sentiment rather than pro Brexit sentiment.

Arklight

And we're back on to, !!!8220;I'm not a racialist but...!!!8221;

Pauciloquent_1_2

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

Well the best deal possible with the EU is the one we already have.

By definition all future deals will be worse.

With the EU, maybe.
With the rest of the world, certainly not - and there is much more to the world than the EU whose share of global gdp is shrinking year on year.

Pauciloquent_1_2

Arklight wrote: »

And we're back on to, !!!8220;I'm not a racialist but...!!!8221;

The one mentioning that first was your co-remainer Herzlos.

Herzlos wrote: »

More likely a majority being swayed by the constant screams of anti-semitism and racism? Labour have been getting smeared pretty hard.

Dianne Abbot going on TV won't have helped either.

So just maybe you should instead for once try debating the topic instead.
Oh and in UK English we tend to say "racist", not "racialist".

Herzlos

Pauciloquent_1 wrote: »

With the EU, maybe.
With the rest of the world, certainly not - and there is much more to the world than the EU whose share of global gdp is shrinking year on year.

I'm pretty sure that due to our reduced clout, we're going to get a worse deal with everyone else too. We'll be able to make faster deals though, which might cancel it out.

But given that no-one has been able to tell me what deals we should seek, I'm not opening the champagne yet.

kabayiri

Pauciloquent_1 wrote: »

With the EU, maybe.
With the rest of the world, certainly not - and there is much more to the world than the EU whose share of global gdp is shrinking year on year.

There doesn't seem to be any positive response to this fact. I think Team Remain probably thought that if nobody mentioned it then everyone would carry on in blissful ignorance.

Here's another. When was the last time the EU recruited a net contributor state to its' ranks? Of course it's going to milk contributors like the UK for all they are worth when new recruits are there mainly feed off the EU teet.

I actually admire places like Poland for doing this too. You grab what you can get, and when the EU finally do demand you start rebalancing things, you demand other things in return. I wish we had been as focussed in our dealings.

footwearboss

get my answer also

iro

It is inevitable that the 48 letters will now go in.


Good news, TM has done her bit a new PM can disavow everything already agreed. If the Tory remain rebels persist then vote the Government down and let us have another GE.


If Labour run on a soft Brexit/no Brexit they will be wiped out in their heartlands of the North.


If Labour run on a hard Brexit/WTO they will lose votes in their heartlands of the South.


Bring it on, when Democracy is seen to fail we need more, a GE is the proper course so that we either have HMG to negotiate our proper exit or one to order knee protection as we crawl back the EU.

kabayiri

ilovehouses wrote: »

If global growth is increasing faster in other parts of the world then the trade benefits will be mainly being picked up by countries who are geographically closer.
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That's below your usual standard

It wasn't being near each other which revolutionised global trade.

It was the standardised shipping container.

Have you seen how many product miles go into the batteries which powered a Prius? Those things were moving back and forth between continents.

There isn't anything to suggest that the emerging middle class in China have a lot in common with their Cambodian or North Korean neighbours.

My Indian colleagues who are doing well typically aspire to the things we want. Sales of British hifi with strong heritage are doing well, even as far as Japan.

I think we have more chance of selling more luxury autos to the Chinese market than the Polish market.

Herzlos

Pauciloquent_1 wrote: »

The one mentioning that first was your co-remainer Herzlos.

So just maybe you should instead for once try debating the topic instead.
Oh and in UK English we tend to say "racist", not "racialist".

I was responding to westerpromise calling Dianne Abbot a racist because someone felt she was.