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Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

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  • phillw
    phillw Posts: 5,680 Forumite
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    edited 2 May 2018 at 9:49AM
    People voted labour because they wanted to be represented by labour MPs. That they ended up with a government they didn't like is how democracy works.

    Sometimes people vote for someone they don't want, because it would block someone they definitely don't want from getting in.

    We would be better off with big brother style evictions, that would be far more democratic. We would all have a chance to directly choose who we really didn't want at each stage. It would be impractical in a "turn up and tick box" system, but could work well with a mobile phone app.
  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    buglawton wrote: »
    This made me think of the Boris compulsory extra lorry mirrors law, inspired by Londons terrible record of lorry blind spots causing cyclist being killed. That law was blocked/delayed much by the EU due to the need for it to first get agreement from all EU countries.
    Fake news.
    Mayor of London Boris Johnson this week launched a two-pronged assault on the use of deadly lorries on London roads. Mr Johnson has accused the government of blocking European legislation that would improve safety for other road users and today announced a blanket ban on lorries without side guards and safety mirrors.
    http://road.cc/content/news/109860-boris-johnson-moves-get-deadly-lorries-london-roads
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • mrginge
    mrginge Posts: 4,843 Forumite
    That might happen but it's no reason to continue with a government that can't govern. I don't know the answer but this minority government from a divided party and propped up by an ill-advised partner isn't working.
    People voted labour because they wanted to be represented by labour MPs. That they ended up with a government they didn't like is how democracy works.


    Given that you know how democracy ‘works’ from your second statement can you explain why you think democracy isn’t ‘working’ in your first?

    If you think we need another GE then let’s go for it. Personally I’d quite like that but I doubt it’s a popular opinion. Hopefully those vocal, opinionated people will bother to get out of bed and vote this time around rather than just whinge from the sidelines.
  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    EU Q1 prelim GDP numbers are in. +0.4 q/q

    That's 4 times more than the UK.
    If you like percentages, 300% more.
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • HAMISH_MCTAVISH
    HAMISH_MCTAVISH Posts: 28,592 Forumite
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    The prosperous and dynamic EU is growing very nicely.

    Meanwhile the troubled UK economy languishes in the doldrums just a tenth of a percent away from recession - having gone from first in the G20 to dead last following the vote to leave the EU.

    Oh dear...
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

    Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”

    -- President John F. Kennedy”
  • mayonnaise
    mayonnaise Posts: 3,690 Forumite
    And while our economy grinds to a halt, the Cabinet's Brexit Subcommittee has wrapped up, deferring anything meaningful to... a later date.
    Don't blame me, I voted Remain.
  • Herzlos
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    Interesting commentary on the trade deals that countries are desperate to give us once we're out of the customs unions. Naturally, I haven't been convinced yet:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-uk-trade-deals-customs-partnership-eu-impact-theresa-may-plan-a8332411.html
  • The UK is leaving the EU just in time it seems as the EU propose to abolish budget rebates over the next five years.
    Brussels has been refunding around €6bn a year to the likes of Germany, the Netherlands, Austria, Sweden and Denmark. With Britain’s EU exit leaving an annual budget hole of up to €17bn, Brussels wants to scrap this complex system of “correction” mechanisms over the next five years.
    https://www.ft.com/content/5ce33318-4e1e-11e8-a7a9-37318e776bab
    How long before a veto over accepting the Euro would go too, also going against what remainers would wrongly have us believe?
  • The UK is not grinding to a halt despite what mayonnaise and Hamish might try to tell you in this thread.
    In fact the UK saw more investment through M&A than any of their western European peers in April.
    UK companies received more investment through announced mergers and acquisitions (M&A) than any of their western European peers in April, set to rake in €58.4bn (£42.8bn) – the largest monthly value for the country since July 2016.
    http://www.cityam.com/285115/uk-defied-shrinking-dealmaking-western-europe-last-month
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    mayonnaise wrote: »
    EU Q1 prelim GDP numbers are in. +0.4 q/q

    That's 4 times more than the UK.
    If you like percentages, 300% more.

    Breakdown by country ?
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