Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

mayonnaise

Tromking wrote: »

I fear you maybe disappointed.

Remind us again of the turnout for Nigel Farage's 100,000 strong march on the Supreme Court.

Tromking

mayonnaise wrote: »

Remind us again of the turnout for Nigel Farage's 100,000 strong march on the Supreme Court.

.......haven’t the foggiest. In their desperation to water down or perhaps overturn the referendum result I don’t think your average Remainer is prepared to countenance the effect of 17 million people who voted Brexit being denied. Perhaps they don’t care.

Herzlos

kabayiri wrote: »

It's just how you sell nationalism. Anti EU / Anti Westminster; it's the same rebellion against the Union.

Not really.

Look at what the right wings stance was on both. Why were all the left wing groups and rags anti Scottish independence but pro Brexit?

Because not all nationalism is the same. Scottish national party want the best for the people in Scotland wherever they were born. British national party on the other hand we're about "defending the white people in the UK from brown people.

Herzlos

Tromking wrote: »

Apologies, I hadn’t realised you were a Scottish Nationalist and therefore in favour of the dismantling of the U.K. State. My bad.

I'm not. But can you explain how you support Brexit but not Scottish independence?

Herzlos

Tromking wrote: »

.......haven’t the foggiest. In their desperation to water down or perhaps overturn the referendum result I don’t think your average Remainer is prepared to countenance the effect of 17 million people who voted Brexit being denied. Perhaps they don’t care.

You're assuming those 17m want the same Brexit that May will get them.
Some large chunk of them will be outraged at the result, plus those that don't want it.

Cancelling Brexit will upset the least number of people

Tromking

Herzlos wrote: »

I'm not. But can you explain how you support Brexit but not Scottish independence?

...because I’m a British Unionist
Duh!

Tromking

Herzlos wrote: »

You're assuming those 17m want the same Brexit that May will get them.
Some large chunk of them will be outraged at the result, plus those that don't want it.

Cancelling Brexit will upset the least number of people

I agree that’s your hope.
Cancelling Brexit equals constitutional crisis.

mayonnaise

Tromking wrote: »

I agree that’s your hope.
Cancelling Brexit equals constitutional crisis.

There won't be a cancelling.
Just a watering down.
Not too much watering down to keep you guys happy.
Enough watering down not to sink the economy.
I wouldn't worry about it too much if I were you.

Herzlos

Tromking wrote: »

...because I’m a British Unionist
Duh!

Right, so why is that?

Why should sovereignty stop at Westminster, if smaller is better?

Tromking wrote: »

I agree that’s your hope.
Cancelling Brexit equals constitutional crisis.

It's not my hope at all. I'll be happy with a BRINO if it shuts the leavers up.

It's just logical. 48% don't want to try a eating out "somewhere new". 52% do. Of those 52, not all have the idea of where they're going. A restaurant is picked at random, lets say a good old British Pub. If any more than 3 of those 52% aren't happy with that choice (6%), then more people will be unhappy than are happy. Correct?

Given that "brexit" is still undefined and means different things to people, do you agree there's a reasonable chance that should "brexit" happen, some not insignificant number of leave voters will be unhappy because they didn't get their brexit?

So which option results in the least unhappy people?

Tromking

Herzlos wrote: »

Right, so why is that?

Why should sovereignty stop at Westminster, if smaller is better?

Err.... because as a British Unionist I believe sovereignty resides in my national parliament at Westminster.