Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Lornapink

Arklight wrote: »

The actual Leave campaign was very clear in its sentiment. It was xenophobic.

Most normal people don't consider Canada xenophobic for employing a points based immigration system. Only shrill Remainers have such an odd view of managed immigration.

And yes, yes, I am well aware Canada has high immigration, but as we've said all along this is their current CHOICE.

Cameron tried to get an immigration reprieve from Brussels and was sent packing.

Lornapink

Herzlos wrote: »

I think that sums it up pretty well; the differences between leave and remain are irreconcilable, and we'll never understand the reasoning of the other side.

Remainers will come round to living in a confident independent nation only once they see with their own eyes the huge benefits and innovations. Within 5 years most will be perfectly content not being in the EU.
No point my explaining these opportunities and benefits, I've seen over the last 2 years how Remainers simply dismiss them out of hand in the same way someone in a doomsday cult cannot perceive of any other way being.

Lornapink

gfplux wrote: »

Arriving at Britain's swashbuckling free-trading future is not going to be straightforward.

Remainers reaction to this > let's give up, this is all too difficult.
Leavers reaction > let's embrace change & innovation, yes it's tough but let's make this work.


Which instinct tends to be more admired when looking back at historical figures?

wunferall

Herzlos wrote: »

It took you long enough to try and discredit me for having a foreign username

What is discrediting about congratulating you on the accuracy of your chosen username? You chose it and at least yours honestly describes your posting style unlike say "mayonnaise" or "[STRIKE]ilovehouses[/STRIKE]" ilovepringles (although the latter might explain a lot).

Herzlos wrote: »

I feel, based on the evidence i see, that my family is better looked after in the eu. More money, more opportunity, more safeguards.

The alternative is what, the Tories cutting "red tape" and reducing our food standards or selling our nhs to get a trade deal?

Fortunately over 17 million people saw more clearly than you. There has been no suggestion of what you mention other than from skirt-clutching remainers desperately trying to cling to EU skirts by promoting even more lies.

Herzlos wrote: »

If I was actually German I'd be wanting you to get on with it and leave already

*yawn*
Where did I say you were German? I said your username was German. Like the others desperate to jump on a bashing bandwagon, do you similarly lack the nous to be able to distinguish the difference? That would explain why the remainer attitude, mind.

wunferall

Arklight wrote: »

The actual Leave campaign was very clear in its sentiment. It was xenophobic.

If you really want xenophobic look at the Italian election campaign or (even better) the Hungarian campaign. Also note that we don't have xenophobic parties holding seats in our parliament unlike the Netherlands, France, Italy, Austria, etc. etc. etc.

So nice try but no cigar.

Arklight

wunferall wrote: »

If you really want xenophobic look at the Italian election campaign or (even better) the Hungarian campaign. Also note that we don't have xenophobic parties holding seats in our parliament unlike the Netherlands, France, Italy, Austria, etc. etc. etc.

So nice try but no cigar.

No, we just have a xenophobic government instead. That's much better.

Arklight

Lornapink wrote: »

Remainers reaction to this > let's give up, this is all too difficult.
Leavers reaction > let's embrace change & innovation, yes it's tough but let's make this work.


Which instinct tends to be more admired when looking back at historical figures?

That's interesting, what are you doing Lorna?

It doesn't count if it involves Pringles, Jeremy Kyle, or Rustlers Microwave Burgers.

mayonnaise

Arklight wrote: »

That's interesting, what are you doing Lorna?

It doesn't count if it involves Pringles, Jeremy Kyle, or Rustlers Microwave Burgers.

Mortgage brokering I think. Like her husband.

Herzlos

kabayiri wrote: »

The EU don't care about disenfranchised people in Sunderland or Bradford any more than they do about the people in parts of Greece and Southern Italy

Neither does Westminster. At least some eu grant money makes it to the abandoned parts of Britain.

Herzlos

Lornapink wrote: »

Remainers reaction to this > let's give up, this is all too difficult.
Leavers reaction > let's embrace change & innovation, yes it's tough but let's make this work.


Which instinct tends to be more admired when looking back at historical figures?

Its more w case of remainers pointing out where it won't work and asking the leavers how they think it'll work. Then either silence or distraction.

I'm still waiting on literally any details from leave as to how any of this will actually work.