Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Rough_Justice

mayonnaise wrote: »

Not at all. Norway option is fine. No bitterness.
Interesting article from Simon Jenkins on this.

Sorry to bring the news, but your beloved hard brexit is dead.

The reliable (or rather, not) opinion of Simon Jenkins, he as castigated by the BBC in April last year for lying about director Tony Hall in his opinion piece?
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/apr/07/bbc-has-no-regrets-on-brexit-coverage

Sorry to bring the news but until Brexit has been agreed and signed, nothing is certain.

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

In what way?

The EU's options remain the starting point for discussions.

Likewise the UK has a starting position. Agreement will be reached through compromise and trade off.

Arklight

Rinoa wrote: »

The referendum deniers just won't accept reality.

They lost.

We're leaving the EU.

That is what people like you believe, yes.

Herzlos

Thrugelmir wrote: »

You may find that matters have moved on since then.

But the EU stance hasn't. Once we pick a starting point we can start to figure out all the fine detail.

gfplux

I thought at least one Brexiter would have an attempt at making a list of the positives of Brexit.
Another Brexiter lie about cheaper food has bitten the dust with the Sun what won it changing its mind about cheaper foods.
https://infacts.org/fake_news_posts/sun-climbs-bargain-brexit-will-rees-mogg-follow/

gfplux

A lot of back and forth on this thread about Brexit lies and Brexit vote rigging but no one mentioning any advantage of Brexit.

So leaving a huge trading block to leap into the dark is all for nothing.
Thank you.

mrginge

ilovehouses wrote: »

Sorry, I forgot that all of your posts tend to be sarcasm from the side. Hint, it usually ends up looking like you're either not very funny or not on top of the facts.

Did you not see the :doh:?

Try think of it as a little test for the remoaners. I mean, I know that norway is a schengen country because the Norway option was discussed at length during the referendum campaign.

mrginge

gfplux wrote: »

I thought at least one Brexiter would have an attempt at making a list of the positives of Brexit.
Another Brexiter lie about cheaper food has bitten the dust with the Sun what won it changing its mind about cheaper foods.
https://infacts.org/fake_news_posts/sun-climbs-bargain-brexit-will-rees-mogg-follow/

There are no advantages matey. I think we should cancel the whole thing.

Note to ilovehouses: I don’t really think this.

gfplux

Shock Horror, putting together a brand new software system to monitor foreigners and goods is take longer than predicted (by Brexiters)

Brace for a possible extension of the transition period.

Bloomberg Brexit bulletin has this.

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Now the question is what kind of future customs arrangements will apply to trade between the U.K. and the EU (and how will this help avoid a hard border with Ireland). May suggested on Tuesday that designing a new customs regime and getting everything ready was turning out to be quite a time-consuming task.

Whats become clear is that sometimes the timetables that have originally been set are not the timetables that are necessary when you actually start to look at the detail and when you delve into what it really is that you want to be able to achieve, May said.

The prime ministers candid comment to Tory MP Nicky Morgan, in evidence to the Commons Liaison Committee, might be seen as a hint that shes planning something. Will the U.K. ultimately want a longer period of implementation once a new customs plan has been drawn up? Some Brexit watchers are already saying so, and May did little to suggest shes in a hurry to switch to a new regime.
END QUOTE

phillw

Rough_Justice wrote: »

but at least Farage voices coherent and worthwhile points in his speeches there.:D

In your opinion. I have followed Farage closely and all I ever heard was manipulative veiled hate speech

ilovehouses wrote: »

The positive they hope for is that immigration will be reduced.

Weirdly a lot of leave voters were immigrants from outside of the EU who wanted to end passport discrimination. There are a lot of immigrants, so if they coordinate then they can get decent representation in the UK & open the borders to even more non EU immigrants.

The EU has protected us against that happening up until now.

The idea that the white british can "take back control" is laughable.