Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

mrginge

Herzlos wrote: »

But we aren't going away.
If you want us to fix this mess, you need to at least get us on side.

Yes thank god you are here to bail us all out of this nightmare.

Arklight

Emergency debate in Parliament as Whistleblower Whylie confirms LEAVE LIES may well have swung outcome.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2018/mar/27/tony-blair-tells-tories-to-block-brexit-if-they-want-to-avoid-corbyn-government-politics-live

Thrugelmir

Herzlos wrote: »

Alas almost no Leave voters seem to care about keeping NI in the UK, if it means they get their Brexit.

Without raking over old ground yet again. Illuminates how little understanding there is of particular topics. When people attempt to use information to put forward their point of view. Probably why this thread simply spins like a washing machine. Going nowhere.

Moby

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/27/beleave-revelations-taint-brexit-result-shahmir-sanni-disclosure-funds Now we can see the Brexit vote was a fraud!

Rinoa

The referendum deniers just won't accept reality.

They lost.

We're leaving the EU.

mayonnaise

Norway option is fine.
Interesting article from Simon Jenkins on this.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/22/brexit-britain-norway-theresa-may-transition-deal

At last, good news on Brexit: Britain is heading for Norway

What Britons thought they were !!!8220;leaving!!!8221; in 2016 remains opaque. No replacement question was asked. Britain will withdraw from the EU, but what takes its place must be a decision for parliament. Everything we read from polls and surveys suggests there is no majority for trade barriers at Calais or a ban on European care workers or plumbers. Public opinion wants soft Brexit. It wants Norway.

Sorry to bring the news, but your beloved hard brexit is dead.

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Thrugelmir

Herzlos wrote: »

The EU provided the UK with a handy chart of options months ago, giving us a specific list of what deals suited which red lines.

You may find that matters have moved on since then.

mrginge

This is brilliant news.

Especially as Norway is not a member of Schengen.

So we would leave the eu, but stay in the SM, whilst controlling our immigration and making our own trade deals.

Simon Jenkins is a genius and I am bemused as to why this almost !!!8216;cake-and-eat-it!!!8217; solution hasn!!!8217;t been thought of before :doh:

mrginge

ilovehouses wrote: »

The UK isn't a member of the Schengen group either. How's that working out for you in terms of your thoughts on whether we're controlling immigration.

It FoM you don't want us to participate in. Norway has to apply free movement rules.

It might be a factoid I dreamt up but I'm pretty sure that on a per capita basis Norway's immigration rate of EU citizens is/was about 4 times higher than the UK.

As the genius Simon Jenkins says. Hard brexiteers can go jump off a cliff.

You know when I put !!!8216;Norway is not a member of schengen!!!8217;,
What I meant was !!!8216;that is a stupid idea because everyone knows that Norway is a member of schengen and since all the remoaners on here keep telling us that brexit was about immigration voted for by racists and/or xenophobes, then such a solution isn!!!8217;t going to wash!!!8217;

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Rough_Justice

mrginge wrote: »

You know when I put !!!8216;Norway is not a member of schengen!!!8217;,
What I meant was !!!8216;that is a stupid idea because everyone knows that Norway is a member of schengen and since all the remoaners on here keep telling us that brexit was about immigration voted for by racists and/or xenophobes, then such a solution isn!!!8217;t going to wash!!!8217;

I thought that was fairly obvious but you must have a hard day shuffling paper clips.

Yes indeed and Lord help the poor souls supposedly reliant upon such insight from a member of their "trade Brexit group".
If true then someone is obviously dedicating less time to that task than the much-complained-about Farage in the European Parliament but at least Farage voices coherent and worthwhile points in his speeches there.