Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Matt_L

In my spare time over the last few years i race motorbikes, I have been a member of Bemsee (a motorcycle race club) and race in their series. Ive enjoyed my time there, made many friends and many happy memories, Ive also spent a fairly large sum of money with them. However this year I've decided to switch clubs and go with NLR. The main reason being that NLR visit more local circuits to me so less travelling..

What i found extremely strange when making the call to Bemsee was how polite they were. They wished me luck, told me there would be free tickets to come and watch anytime i wanted to. I even made the joke, "well aren't you going to punish me for leaving"? No they won't, in fact the very opposite, they have also offered free technical support and accommodation where possible. They genuinely want to see me thrive at my new club

Thought id share that..

Thrugelmir

cepheus wrote: »

97% of academics
All of big business (CBI)
Every former PM alive
IMF
World Bank
Every major bank
HM Treasury

No mention of ordinary people.

Go figure!

Rough_Justice

Andrew Neil gets it right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay4fkIhOluY

Matt_L

ilovehouses wrote: »

I'm assuming when you were pondering the pros and cons of leaving you weren't continually bad mouthing the club and religiously thanking people who were calling them an undemocratic, corrupt hotbed of the right?

Personally no, my family however on numerous occasions have had a few choice words with them, i guess a little like TM has been nothing but respectful..

Moby

Thrugelmir wrote: »

No mention of ordinary people.

Go figure!

I should imagine ordinary people were a significant proportion of the 48%. Would you class Farage, Johnson, Gove, Redwood, Duncan Smith, Bone etc as representative of ordinary people. I wouldn't. On another point I reckon we'd have appreciated the solidarity from our EU colleagues to support us in the coming war with Russia. Now because of brexit we're going to be pretty isolated!

Herzlos

cogito wrote: »

According to the Indy, Tusk is now saying that unless we solve the Ireland issue, there will be no discussion on trade. The idiot cannot see that the two are linked and one cannot be resolved without the other.

As I understand it; Tusk is just forcing us to commit to the thing we agreed in December in person and rejected in February in writing.

That we agree to either provide a solution for the border or commit to a fall-back. If we're going to keep going back on what we say, we need to expect them to treat us like the toddler we're being.

Rinoa

Herzlos wrote: »

As I understand it; Tusk is just forcing us to commit to the thing we agreed in December in person and rejected in February in writing.

That we agree to either provide a solution for the border or commit to a fall-back. If we're going to keep going back on what we say, we need to expect them to treat us like the toddler we're being.

Why can't we wait until after the trade deal is negotiated before agreeing on the border issue.

cogito

Herzlos wrote: »

As I understand it; Tusk is just forcing us to commit to the thing we agreed in December in person and rejected in February in writing.

That we agree to either provide a solution for the border or commit to a fall-back. If we're going to keep going back on what we say, we need to expect them to treat us like the toddler we're being.

Last week the EU published a document which effectively annexed part of the UK. What words would you use to describe this if you think that the UK is behaving like a toddler?

Second thoughts. I don't even know why I'm asking this of an apologist for the EU. Nothing they do will ever be wrong in your eyes.

fewgroats

You need what out what the border is before working out how it affects trade. Seems a no-brainer to me.

cepheus

Thrugelmir wrote: »

No mention of ordinary people.

Go figure!

A proportion of ordinary people can easily be manipulated by the media and politicians in the second list, experts less easily so. That's why Michael Gove hates experts.