Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

gfplux

mrginge wrote: »

Does anyone know when the next edition of gfplux!!!8217;s true horror list is coming out?

I!!!8217;ve not seen it for a few days and am getting concerned that I may forget how terrible things are going to be.

Don’t worry, the horror storys about Brexit will continue. How can you not have a horror story without the horror.

You mrginge and mrsginge May be alright jack but someone has to pay and while it may not be you just ask your neighbour.

gfplux

This is what it is, just a copy and paste. However those worried that Brexit will only be a small disaster can take comfort from this very short list.

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This came up on my newsfeed this morning ...

This comment has been shared, it started out as a reply to a link, but with the help of some other contributors, it!!!8217;s grown legs, so it deserves to be shared.

So let me get this right, to date, industries either moving, considering moving, reducing capacity, or shutting up shop due to Brexit uncertainty and rising costs due to the weak £, now stands at;

* Airlines.
* Car factories. At risk 2.7 million workers
* Financial services. 2.19 million workers
* Component factories in aerospace and car tech.
* Games tech companies, 40% of which are considering moving to the EU.
* Restaurants & hotels - Jamie!!!8217;s, Prezzo, Strada, Chimichanga, as people start to tighten their belts, middle range eateries suffer. 4.49 million workers in hospitality.
* Retailers ( toysRus, maplin, gone already, New Look, HoF, Debs, Homebase, M&S, restructuring) with many others showing significant drops in profit or issuing profit warnings, not too mention struggling independents, all struggling to cope with the falling £. 2.6 million workers in retail.
* 46% Of EU companies with a Uk base will be reducing uk capacity. 15% will remove all operations to the EU, 28% will move a !!!8220;significant!!!8221; proportion, & 29% will move smaller parts of their operation.

That!!!8217;s a total of over 12 millions workers in these industries.

Then there!!!8217;s the other crap that comes with leaving the EU:

* Good Friday agreement in danger
* Reintroduction Of roaming charges
* Geoblocking - we wont get it!
* More expensive food, due to weak £ and import costs.
* Increased cost of fuels, gas, electric & petrol plus possible supply issues.
* Less money for services eg. NHS, local councils, schools etc.
* Leaving Euratom
* Loss of Euroclear
* Brain drain of EU staff from Universities and British staff seeking better opportunities elsewhere.
* Loss of EU staff in NHS leaving some areas critically understaffed
* Loss of EU staff from hospitality industry, hotels & restaurants all struggling to recruit.
* Food rotting in fields due to lack of migrant workers.
* Stagnating economy, with prolonged recession looming.
* Fisheries losing their biggest market (EU) which may cause the collapse of the industry in some areas, (Grimsby being one), due to being uncompetitive if there is no free trade agreement.
* Reduced opportunities for our school and uni leavers.
* Removal of farming subsidies.
* Loss of regeneration cash to ex heavy industry or poor communities ( eg. North East, Wales, Cornwall).
* Gibraltar- that!!!8217;s got to pop over the parapet soon!
* Food shortages, 1/3 of U.K. food is imported.
* End of Erasmus scheme.
*Loss of !!!8220;Open Skies!!!8221; agreement.
*Relaxation of workers rights, re hours, pregnancy, minimum wage, etc. Making it easier to fire people.
* Loss of trading opportunity ( has anyone actually checked out the WTO rules )!
* Becoming !!!8220;little Britain!!!8221;, we are a service nation, not a manufacturing one, Shipping, steel and mining are never coming back.
* Potential break up of Great Britain, Starting with Scotland.
* EHIC card and the right to reciprocal healthcare in the union.
* Relaxation of health and safety rules following exit to the detriment of workers and the general public.
* Exit from the ECtHR. European courts of human rights
* Exit from CFREU - charter of fundamental rights of European Union. Which protects our rights to equality, non discrimination and human rights under EU law.
* European medical agency moved to Amsterdam (underway already)
* European banking authority (move to Paris, underway already)
* Loss of funding for cancer research and other critical medical research projects
* Loss of reciprocal cross country research into illnesses, and treatment.
* Loss of research grants across all areas, resulting in further brain drain.
* Loss of access for critical cancer drugs
* Lack of clarity as to rights of EU nationals domiciled in the U.K.
* 2.2 million UK expats living in the union (either full or part time) may lose rights to uk pensions & reciprocal healthcare, resulting in them having to return to the U.K. adding additional strain on the NHS and council services.
* Uk border controls revert to Dover from Calais.
* Leaving the ECJ which poses significant risks to our security.
* Loss of freedom of movement within the EU, possible reintroduction of costly visa!!!8217;s.
* Impact on Sports, Art & Culture, due to freedom of movement restraints, costs of importing / exporting equipment and livestock.
* UK driving licence no longer valid in EU & loss of green card insurance scheme.
* Leaving the single market.
* Leaving the customs union.
* Joint action on climate change.
* Animal welfare and sentience laws.
* Wildlife safeguards & habitat protection.
* Harmonisation in industrial standards & CE standards.
* Food safety and consumer protection (chlorinated chicken anyone?)
* Risk of NHS being !!!8220;sold off!!!8221; in a US trade deal.

Do feel free to add anything I may have missed off!

When will someone in power; frankly anyone, have the balls to stand up and say; this is all crap! It!!!8217;s going to hurt us immeasurably, it will take us generations to recover, probably only by reentering the EU, but with no power of veto as we now have.

And we are doing this why? To regain a sovereignty we never actually lost, and to control our borders, that we already had control of, (just didn!!!8217;t make use of the laws open to us)! The country really has gone totally insane!
END QUOTE AND THANK YOU.

mrginge

gfplux wrote: »

Don’t worry, the horror storys about Brexit will continue. How can you not have a horror story without the horror.

You mrginge and mrsginge May be alright jack but someone has to pay and while it may not be you just ask your neighbour.

Two things.

Firstly I don’t like your assumptive labelling of me as a heterosexual.

Secondly I don’t have neighbours as I live in a big castle. I have staff instead.

In future please refrain from this offensive behaviour or I will report you.

cogito

gfplux wrote: »

Bloomberg sent me this today.
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Luxembourg Prime Minister Xavier Bettel cracked a joke at Britains expense on Wednesday as Tusk presented his negotiating guidelines, and it sums up sentiment on the continent to Britains approach, past and present.

They were in but had a lot of opt-outs. Now they are out and they want a lot of opt-ins.
END QUOTE

Is that what passes for humour in Luxembourg?

cepheus

Faisal IslamVerified account@faisalislam

Commons Brexit committee publishes the full 29 page official internal Brexit Impact study first leaked to @AlbertoNardelli and then further leaked to @skynews

The horror that is hard Brexit is on the left. I can't see Parliament agreeing to this if any of these options.



https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/971707669731008512

cepheus

This is quite a blow for the Little Englanders, Brexit is even threatening our beloved Fish & Chips!

Much of the fish caught in UK boats and waters isn’t sold in the UK, because of different food preferences in the UK versus some of our European neighbours. As a result, the UK exports just under £1bn a year worth of fish to EU countries – a trade which could be severely damaged in a hard-Brexit scenario in which the EU imposed tariffs on the UK.

Even more significantly, a report prepared by the EU notes that the UK would lose automatic access to fish in EU waters, with these rights being redistributed among other nations. This doesn’t matter a great deal to Scottish fishers, who largely stay within UK waters, but the English fleet is hugely reliant on fishing in international waters. Most critically, UK boats catch much of the cod they take from Norwegian waters – meaning Brexit could even pose something of a risk to fish and chips.

http://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/brexit-deconstruct-britain-sector-industries-1-5387078?utm_content=social-05tp2&utm_medium=social&utm_source=SocialMedia&utm_campaign=SocialPilot

cogito

cepheus wrote: »

This is quite a blow for the Little Englanders, Brexit is even threatening our beloved Fish & Chips!



http://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/brexit-deconstruct-britain-sector-industries-1-5387078?utm_content=social-05tp2&utm_medium=social&utm_source=SocialMedia&utm_campaign=SocialPilot

UK fishermen catch 90,000 tons of fish in EU waters annually. EU fishermen catch 650,000 tons in British waters annually. The latter includes 99,000 tons of demersal fish - that's cod, haddock and plaice to you.

You do the math.

Herzlos

If only we had someone on the eu fisheries committee to fight the injustice.

cepheus

cogito wrote: »

UK fishermen catch 90,000 tons of fish in EU waters annually. EU fishermen catch 650,000 tons in British waters annually. The latter includes 99,000 tons of demersal fish - that's cod, haddock and plaice to you.

You do the math.

Even if true that's not the whole story:

If we left the EU it wouldn’t necessarily mean that the situation would improve. The House of Commons Library has said that “many of the underlying issues that affect fisheries management would remain unchanged.”

The UK is signed up to the UN Law of the Sea Convention which allows countries to establish an Exclusive Economic Zone of up to 200 nautical miles from their coast. If the UK were to leave the EU we could have control of all fish which were within this zone. But, the same laws also require countries to ensure that fish stocks are conserved and that the allowable catch is specified and where necessary shared with other countries.

also

The UK’s share of the overall EU fishing catch grew between 2004 and 2014. In 2004 the UK had the fourth largest catch of any EU country at 652,000 tonnes, by 2014 this had grown to 752,000 tonnes and the second largest catch of any country in the EU

https://fullfact.org/europe/eu-pinching-our-fish/

Moby

ilovehouses wrote: »

I'd call that wit rather than humour.

For laugh out loud, follow through laughter I prefer IDS..



According to the Express parliament ERUPTED in laughter.

The more I watch the MP's who represent us in our parliament I realise I have nothing in common with that rabble. The ridiculous public school 'banter' and manufactured self righteous braying in PMQ's, the planted questions by canon fodder lackey MP's which offer no enlightenment on any issue. Yep our so called 'parliament' has long gone past its sell by date.