Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Rough_Justice

Herzlos wrote: »

I'm not really. But it's irrelevant. What can the eu actually offer us?

What have they offered Italians?
What have they offered Greeks?

They can offer to respect the volume of trade each way and be reasonable.
Especially considering the £80 billion imbalance in their favour.
But they won't.

cogito

Herzlos wrote: »

I'm not really. But it's irrelevant. What can the eu actually offer us?

Make your mind up. Your last post said they had made us some great offers.

Not that I can think of any offhand.

Rough_Justice

ilovehouses wrote: »

The Sun didn't bother fact checking their Champagne story..
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5681724/british-vineyard-celebrates-end-of-eu-red-tape-with-special-pint-bottles-of-champagne-beloved-by-churchill-which-will-be-ready-to-drink-straight-after-brexit/
Brexit isn't going to turn English sparkling wine into Champagne.

What was the terminology you used ................ ah yes.

ilovehouses wrote: »

.......... I think you're over-egging it.

It's nothing more than a "swipe" at the EU, as the Sun loves to do.

Rinoa

Herzlos wrote: »

Put yourself in the EU's shoes a monent; what can they do?
If they give us a better deal than being a member, or split the core freedoms, the eu falls apart.
If they give us a better trading deal than anyone else, every one will want concessions and it becomes a nightmare.

It's still their problem.

They've demanded we jump through all their hoops just for them to throw us a few scraps, attempted to steal our financial service business, demanded ransom money to enter a transition period and generally been as uncooperative as possible.

They now want us to help them out with the border issue.

I hope TM sees the NI border issue as worthy of a few concessions.

Herzlos

Rough_Justice wrote: »

* Remainers think discussing Champagne is more important than discussing the increasing likelihood of a WTO Brexit being forced because of EU intractibility.

May has explicitly ruled out a wto Brexit, but we all know it wasn't going to happen anyway.

Pints of champagne sums up Brexit pretty well.

Herzlos

cogito wrote: »

Make your mind up. Your last post said they had made us some great offers.

Not that I can think of any offhand.

Well you wouldn't. I can share the chart again?

Herzlos

Rinoa wrote: »

It's still their problem.

They've demanded we jump through all their hoops just for them to throw us a few scraps, attempted to steal our financial service business, demanded ransom money to enter a transition period and generally been as uncooperative as possible.

They now want us to help them out with the border issue.

I hope TM sees the NI border issue as worthy of a few concessions.

It is their problem but even if they wanted to, they can't give us a special deal.

The border issue is of our making and we've agreed to sort it. Again there's nothing the eu can do.

Rough_Justice

Herzlos wrote: »

May has explicitly ruled out a wto Brexit, but we all know it wasn't going to happen anyway.

Pints of champagne sums up Brexit pretty well.

Where?
You're deliberately ignoring "no deal is better than a bad deal' again, aren't you?
As said AGAIN on the Marr show, making it twice in a few days.

Rough_Justice

ilovehouses wrote: »

She did mention close regulatory alignment with the EU quite a few times.

A bit odd given divergence was the big winner from the Chequers awayday.

That's no big deal.
It has been said before, we are ALREADY aligned.
That's how it has been since we joined.
Interpretation is key.

Rough_Justice

Are none of the remain faction going to comment on this?
Surely it's more interesting AND more on-topic than Champagne?

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