Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Moby

StevieJ wrote: »

Getting there :-)

...She's being dragged kicking and screaming into the light...:-)

mrginge

ilovehouses wrote: »

It's always been my view that whatever the Tories delivered there would be plenty of brexiteers who, despite the bluster, would declare it's what they wanted all along.

And equally, a bunch of remainers who after two years of desperation to cancel the whole thing or at very least stay in the SM, suddenly declare themselves overjoyed that they are going to end up leaving anyway.

Funny eh.

Perhaps history will remember TM as the PM who did what everyone said was impossible and make everyone happy?

ukcarper

Anna Soubry Wasnt that happy with speech. If shes upsetting her and her hard brexiters May must be doing something right.

As a not so fanatical remainer if she pulls it off I think she will keep the majority happy not sure she will though.

Arklight

Well that!!!8217;s a pretty substantial U-turn from Theresa May. It appears she was just waiting for Jerermy Corbyn to tell her what her policy on Brexit should be.

Of course she'll have had to have cleared it with the DUP first.

This lady has rather a peculiar definition of being 'in power', though in all fairness this is basically the kind of independence that Britain will have outside the EU.

Doing what everyone else is because you have no other choice and no say in their decision making.

ukcarper

Listening to some people on here I wonder if they actually listened to speech, they seem to be hearing what they want to hear.

Filo25

Seems a pretty meaningless speech from what I have read, a few aspirations to keep both sides happy, little in the way of concrete proposals

Herzlos

mrginge wrote: »

And equally, a bunch of remainers who after two years of desperation to cancel the whole thing or at very least stay in the SM, suddenly declare themselves overjoyed that they are going to end up leaving anyway.

I'm still baffled that we're leaving, and I'm not overjoyed about Mays plans. I also think they are still impossible.

But given the choice between hard brexit and brino, I'll take the latter any day. It'll do minimal additional damage and make it easier to rejoin later.

To be fair it sounds like she's starting to accept the deal remainers have predicted from the start.

Matt_L

Didn't hear all the speech yet but from what i can gather she reiterated the following:

We are leaving the CU
We are leaving the SM
We will be able to make our own trade deals
On most things our courts are number one
Free movement will end

Am i missing anything??

To see remainers on here finally happy then is it time we put our divisions to one side and got behind TM

Theophile

Matt_L wrote: »

Didn't hear all the speech yet but from what i can gather she reiterated the following:

We are leaving the CU
We are leaving the SM
We will be able to make our own trade deals
On most things our courts are number one
Free movement will end

Am i missing anything??

To see remainers on here finally happy then is it time we put our divisions to one side and got behind TM

Yes that's what I said, we should get behind TM to deliver the BRINO we all know is coming.
Glad to have you on board, Matt. _party_

Rough_Justice

mrginge wrote: »

And equally, a bunch of remainers who after two years of desperation to cancel the whole thing or at very least stay in the SM, suddenly declare themselves overjoyed that they are going to end up leaving anyway.

Funny eh.

Perhaps history will remember TM as the PM who did what everyone said was impossible and make everyone happy?

She has played an absolute blinder IMHO.

Remainers happy.
Brexiters happy.
Media happy.

But no wonder Tusk was quiet as I said yesterday.
The EU are on the back foot and have been mightily played.
May has shown compromise BUT I suspect in full knowledge that the EU, being the intransigent bunch they are, just cannot themselves agree to do the same.
That will not only show the world just what a political dinosaur the EU are but will turn both global and intra-EU opinion against them for not reciprocating and finalising a Brexit deal.

Simply, although May says she won't threaten to walk away from EU negotiations she doesn't need to.
Because the EU will not ever agree to a deal.
WTO here we come.
And the world will lay the blame at the door of the EU.

Now let's see if the remainers here that were praising Theresa May are still of that opinion. Because it looks like she has played the EU to absolute perfection, leaving them the choice of giving the UK much of what May has asked for OR proving themselves to be the protectionist, intransigent and despotic organisation that many already consider them to be.