Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

tracey3596

"Europe could bring down Angela Merkel"

Cobbling together the coalition, though, has sown the seeds of a row that could ultimately create havoc within the CDU/CSU

https://news.sky.com/story/sky-views-europe-could-bring-down-angela-merkel-11241397


The beginning of the end for Merkel.
:T

tracey3596

One for the remainers here to fume over:
"17 reasons why we should love Brexit"

So, what could we do once we Brexit? Well actually, given how extensive EU law is, an awful lot. Some will depend on the deal we have with the EU. Some are things we could do but wouldn’t want to do. But there are also lots of popular things the government could do.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/02/17-reasons-why-we-should-love-brexit/

Herzlos

People have been claiming the end of Merkel for years.

tracey3596 wrote: »

One for the remainers here to fume over:
"17 reasons why we should love Brexit"


https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/02/17-reasons-why-we-should-love-brexit/

Before I waste time on this. Did you read it and agree with any of the 17 reasons?

Arklight

Shizzle getting real

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/feb/09/northern-ireland-will-stay-in-single-market-after-brexit-eu-says

Northern Ireland will stay in single market after Brexit, EU says

John McGrane, the director general of the British Irish Chamber of Commerce, said there was still a delusional sense within some government departments in the UK that it would be !!!8220;sorted out!!!8221;. He claimed there was !!!8220;an underlying sense of entitlement!!!8221; that Britain could carry on as it was because it was so important.

!!!8220;Britain has got zero out of the negotiations so far,!!!8221; he said. !!!8220;Does it keep getting zero or does is salvage something? Last week I was at a gathering organised by one of the UK government departments, no disrespect, but it was essentially designed to reinforce the notion that it would be alright, and it was really important that people stood up and said no it might not.!!!8221;

An EU official involved in the negotiations said the situation in Ireland exposed the !!!8220;infeasibility!!!8221; of Brexit on the prime minister!!!8217;s terms. The source added: !!!8220;These commitments will come to haunt the British.!!!8221;

Arklight

tracey3596 wrote: »

One for the remainers here to fume over:
"17 reasons why we should love Brexit"


https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/02/17-reasons-why-we-should-love-brexit/

Yeah I love the Spectator, it's my go to while I'm waiting for the Express to update it's UFO pages.

tracey3596

Herzlos wrote: »

People have been claiming the end of Merkel for years.



Before I waste time on this. Did you read it and agree with any of the 17 reasons?

You waste enough of our time so why should I not return the favour?


"UK accuses EU of ‘refusing’ to speed up Brexit talks

London wants more talks but says ‘this is not being reciprocated.’ "
https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-uk-accuses-eu-of-refusing-to-speed-up-brexit-talks/

tracey3596

Arklight wrote: »

Yeah I love the Spectator, it's my go to while I'm waiting for the Express to update it's UFO pages.

You don't think it's more high-brow than the "newsthump" and "dailymash" posted by others here then?
What a surprise.
:rotfl:

Arklight

tracey3596 wrote: »

You don't think it's more high-brow than the "newsthump" and "dailymash" posted by others here then?
What a surprise.
:rotfl:

The Daily Mash is humorous and satirical Tracey. No, I know you don't understand it.

StevieJ

tracey3596 wrote: »

One for the remainers here to fume over:
"17 reasons why we should love Brexit"


https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/02/17-reasons-why-we-should-love-brexit/

Not sure what this means? Surely people were better off as they could bring in as much as they liked from low duty states like Greece (instead of duty free limits)

There was a huge national moan when duty free for passengers travelling to Europe was abolished, because it conflicted with EU single market rules. Come Brexit, the government could bring back duty free for trips to France, Spain and Italy.

Herzlos

tracey3596 wrote: »

You waste enough of our time so why should I not return the favour?

If I wanted to have a debate with google I'd use google myself. I'm sick of Brexiteers (for the most part) posting a screed of links with titles that sound like they make their point, but reading the articles show the point is either garbage or heavily caveated, implying that the poster either didn't read the articles or doesn't have any reading comprehension. There's no point trying to discuss anything with someone who don't do the most basic research as to whether their 'evidence' is even evidence.

"UK accuses EU of !!!8216;refusing!!!8217; to speed up Brexit talks

London wants more talks but says !!!8216;this is not being reciprocated.!!!8217; "
https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-uk-accuses-eu-of-refusing-to-speed-up-brexit-talks/

They would, wouldn't they? Playing the martyr seems to the only thing team Brexit can do.
As I understand it, we agreed the schedule up front, and now are complaining the EU won't change it (because we assume they've got nothing better to do?)
If we want to speed things up, we need to actually figure out what we want and start making clear proposals to the EU instead of wasting their time in endless meetings.