Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

mayonnaise

There's a difference between being skeptical of further EU integration and being anti-EU.
It's not that difficult.

Thrugelmir

Herzlos wrote: »

I meant in comparison with the EUR100bn bill or the EUR20bn we've offered. I doubt anyone thinks it's a case of just office lease, flights and a removal firm.

The move is likely to cost in the order of low millions which if we're assuming EUR10mn is 0.05% of the bill we're talking about?

The cost probably isn't the issue. It's potentially building a facility from scratch. With many staff not relocating.

cogito

mayonnaise wrote: »

Nope, page 15 doesn't mention any EU exit. Nor does any other page in this document.
Is your imaginary Slovak acquaintance familiar with the phrase "When in a hole, stop digging" ?

Wow. Six minutes to read my post, read a 48 page document and post a refutation. I'm impressed.

As you are so obviously fluent in Czech, perhaps you would care to post a translation. If my acquaintance is wrong, I will be glad to address it with him.

mayonnaise

cogito wrote: »

Wow. Six minutes to read my post, read a 48 page document and post a refutation. I'm impressed.

As you are so obviously fluent in Czech, perhaps you would care to post a translation. If my acquaintance is wrong, I will be glad to address it with him.

More digging? Fine.
Maybe you could ask your fantasy acquaintance to translate chapter 5 for you (page 13) especially the paragraph straight under 'Evropsk! unie'.
Please report back.

cogito

ilovehouses wrote: »

Labour currently being on 262 seats and no date set for the next GE isn't a protective force field for the government. IMO they're doing quite a poor job and it's fairly obvious there's a leadership battle going on in the background. It's not far from the realms of possibility to consider an overt challenge to be made which could well lead to another GE.

Why would that be? Do you think it possible that the government would call another election as to do so it would need a two thirds majority of MPs to vote for it and that is scarcely likely in present circumstances.

Otherwise it would need a vote of no confidence in the government and with the current parliamentary arithmetic, that would need the support of a few tory MPs. That would result in the whip being withdrawn from them and automatic deselection as candidates. How many tories would vote against the government knowing that they would be voting themselves out of a job? Ken Clarke is the only one I can think of who might.

cogito

ilovehouses wrote: »

https://translate.google.com/

Upload the pdf, google detects the language and translates; you can then read in English or search for keywords. 2 minutes.

I didn't go forensic but I couldn't see anything about an EU exit either.

Cheers. My acquaintance has sheepishly acknowledged his error and apologised for embarrassing me. I try to base my comments on what I believe to be factual information and it irks me if What I post turns out to be erroneous.

mrginge

ilovehouses wrote: »

A new Tory leader might seek to give themselves a firmer footing by having an election to increase their majority.

This sort of scenario isn't exactly unknown.

When was the last time a struggling govt decided to risk four years of power to take on an opposition who looked like they could beat them?

Please enlighten us oh great one.

tracey3596

mayonnaise wrote: »

No we shouldn't, because Babis is not anti EU. Why are you people peddling fake news?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-czech-republic-election-20171021-story.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/czech-republic-elections-2017-andrej-babis-win-us-president-donald-trump-a8011596.html

Czech election winner Babis says his party pro-Europe

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-czech-election-babis/czech-election-winner-babis-says-his-party-pro-europe-idUKKBN1CQ0Q5?il=0

There is a difference between being pro-European and being pro-EU.
As you say above, it's not that difficult.


Despite the wishes of many, Europe is most certainly not the same thing as the EU. It is of course entirely possible however that Babis is very pro- the € 6 billion or so which the Czech Republic receives each year from the EU. Can't think why that would be.

mrginge

ilovehouses wrote: »

Can things only happen if they've happened before?

According to Wikipedia in 1951

Besides plenty of leaders have the balls to go to the polls if they take over mid term or if they need a mandate for a divisive issue.

Ooh well done. I’m sure the warning sounds if 1951 are fresh in the ears of bojo.
Not sure why the resulting defeat of attlee would send any potential May successor scurrying to the polls though.
Perhaps you should offer your services are master tactician?

mrginge

ilovehouses wrote: »

Thank you.

If May was looking for warning signs she might have noted that governments calling snap elections tend not to be judged favourably by the electorate

I doubt she would've gone for an election if Davis and Boris hadn't talked her into it. Life would've been different - for a start Hammond would've toast months ago. Boris too probably.

Yes I’m sure that the 20 point poll lead had nothing to do with it.