Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

posh*spice

Tromking wrote: »

Bloomberg is probably another of the ‘movers and shakers’ who feels a bit aggrieved that such a major decision was made by people he usually wouldn’t give a thought about. He feels slighted, but he’ll get over it.

Weird isn't it how "lefties" care more about the opinions of the rich elites than working class Brits.

TrickyTree83

Moby wrote: »

McCarthyite belief system is alive and well in the UK right.

The MP has since come out and said it was research for a book he is writing. Completely plausible and acceptable.

Egg is all over some faces right now.

Tromking

Ballard wrote: »

Regardless of his feelings there are people in this country who would like to see major city companies leave the UK. I have seen posts on social media stating just that. I doubt that it's a huge number but there are certainly quite a few. My guess is that they are generally the sort of people who believe that the NHS will be getting the fabled £350m per week and that there'll be housing aplenty in a few years time. I rather think that they'll be bitterly disappointed if they get their way.

Billionaires like to think that their financial clout gives them power, and undoubtedly it does to a certain degree. Brexit if it is about nothing else is an exercise in democracy. People like Bloomberg are royally hacked off that people like me didn’t give him the opportunity to flex his corporate muscles and threaten not build his European base in London and employ 4K people. It looks like unfortunate timing (for him) has deprived Bloomberg of his Nissan moment, where he could have fed his ego and had politicians begging him not move his operations onto mainland Europe.

TrickyTree83

Herzlos wrote: »

They aren't state funded though - most of the funding comes from the students who either have to finance it themselves (foreigners) or get a loan from the state. They get some state money but it's a push to say they are state funded.

Plus why only concern for material about Brexit?



Why do you *think* he's asking? Do you think he wants to do a crash course on Brexit?

It's not full on thought policing, but it's worrying that someone writing on behalf of the House of Commons (using HoC paper) and not as an MP (using his own paper) even thinks it's valid to be asking universities this stuff. There's a very clear undertone here of "be careful what you're teaching because we're keeping an eye on it", especially since the government has been very critical of anti-Brexit sentiment, going so far as to suggest refusing contracts to pro-Remain companies.

Or do you think you can get a positive spin on this?

Another who jumped to conclusions.

All the man was asking for was information, he's since said to write a book.

You all look pretty foolish right now.

mayonnaise

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

All the man was asking for was information, he's since said to write a book.

For this excuse to stand up, he will now have to write a book. :rotfl:

tracey3596

mayonnaise wrote: »

For this excuse to stand up, he will now have to write a book. :rotfl:

Ah, but he can only write his book if the information he asked so politely for is given otherwise there will be nothing to write about.

Ballard

posh*spice wrote: »

Weird isn't it how "lefties" care more about the opinions of the rich elites than working class Brits.

I care about the country being wealthy enough to provide things such as the NHS. For that to happen the country needs as much employment as possible and companies such as Bloomberg provide some very well paid jobs. Well paid jobs generally means high taxes and that is good for the country.

Some people aren't able to see beyond jealousy and would seemingly prefer that everyone earned working class wages despite the dramatic effect that that would have on the country.

For the record I don't earn a massive amount for London (although admittedly above the national average) but I don't feel the need to become envious of those who earn big amounts and pay their taxes as this can only be to the good of the country.

Arklight

Tromking wrote: »

Bloomberg is probably another of the ‘movers and shakers’ who feels a bit aggrieved that such a major decision was made by people he usually wouldn’t give a thought about. He feels slighted, but he’ll get over it.

Can you help me understand how you will go out and vote for Brexit on one day as a protest against the establishment and then vote Tory the next, hoping for a government that is basically the politicised wing of corporate billionaires?


Nothing about Brexit makes any sense. It's a patchwork of ill thought through grievances and bogey men in the closet. One minute it's foreigners, the next it's American billionaires, following that it's leftie Guardian readers.


What do you lot actually want and how do you think you will get it?

Herzlos

It's all fair and well disliking the rich, but at some point you need to ask where the money's going to come from if we drive them out. As said, wanting the rich to create jobs and spend money in here is as much about getting bins collected and keeping the NHS running that anything else. You'd need some serious cognitive dissonance to think that driving big companies out of the UK is a good thing.

TrickyTree83 wrote: »

The MP has since come out and said it was research for a book he is writing. Completely plausible and acceptable.

Egg is all over some faces right now.

If that's the case, then:

a. Why isn't that in the letter?
b. Why did he send it on House of Commons letterheaded paper if it's a personal project?
c. Why does he think he should be getting uni's to do all his work for him?
d. What's he going to be getting from uni's now that isn't already in the public domain?

If he was asking this question in 5 years time I can almost see some merit, but not now.

It's a bit of a thin excuse, isn't it? Especially one that is so likely to be misconstrued?

So he's either lying or abusing his position, or both?

You can't see how people may be upset at this?

TrickyTree83

Herzlos wrote: »

It's all fair and well disliking the rich, but at some point you need to ask where the money's going to come from if we drive them out. As said, wanting the rich to create jobs and spend money in here is as much about getting bins collected and keeping the NHS running that anything else. You'd need some serious cognitive dissonance to think that driving big companies out of the UK is a good thing.



If that's the case, then:

a. Why isn't that in the letter?
b. Why did he send it on House of Commons letterheaded paper if it's a personal project?
c. Why does he think he should be getting uni's to do all his work for him?
d. What's he going to be getting from uni's now that isn't already in the public domain?

If he was asking this question in 5 years time I can almost see some merit, but not now.

It's a bit of a thin excuse, isn't it? Especially one that is so likely to be misconstrued?

So he's either lying or abusing his position, or both?

You can't see how people may be upset at this?

No I can't see it, because I'm normal.

Clearly those who are offended or upset by an enquiry for information from an MP are off the reservation.

The man asked for information on a particular topic from Universities and their professors/lecturers. The instant reaction was that he was trying to be a one man version of the Stasi, when in reality it could have been anything. What if he were to do the same asking about cake, would there have been such uproar? No. You've all seen what you wanted to see rather than what was actually taking place.

It is a massive over reaction from the academic community, sections of the media (it wasn't covered by all, presumably because there's no substance to it) and members of this forum community.

I said it was a blessing because now those on the fence (if there are indeed any of those people left) are able to see just how left leaning anti-brexit types react to anything that is merely perceived as being against the "correct" perspective.

a. Why isn't that in the letter?
b. Why did he send it on House of Commons letterheaded paper if it's a personal project?
c. Why does he think he should be getting uni's to do all his work for him?
d. What's he going to be getting from uni's now that isn't already in the public domain?

Perhaps you should of thought to actually answer these questions yourself before jumping to conclusions.