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Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

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  • gfplux
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Thought that you followed events in the UK closely. A link for you.

    https://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/uk_national_deficit_analysis

    Not weeks or months but years. Steering the economy is akin to being a captain of a supertanker steady and slow. Levers pulled today may not have a beneficial impact for a decade.

    So you say austerity should last for a decade. Why would you want that. Is it self flagelation. Surely not a direct result of Brexit.
    There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.
  • gfplux
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    edited 21 January 2018 at 4:01PM
    Rinoa wrote: »
    Yes. He said if the french had been offered a referendum on the EU they would probably have voted to leave.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UgZkVBe5Ls

    HTH.

    Yes and he said he would fight to win.
    However they did not have a referendum, they have never been considered areluctant member of the EU so it’s a mute point.

    Frankly if that is your only take away from the interview you prove my point. As a Brexiter you were not listening.
    There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.
  • gfplux
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    edited 21 January 2018 at 4:05PM
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    The EU is funding Northern Ireland with UK taxpayers money at the current time. Which must waste a huge amount of money on central administrative bureaucracy. In an era of increasing decentralisation. Where decisions are often made better at local levels.

    https://ec.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/news/eu-funding-northern-ireland-0_en

    Always worth having an open mind and considering wider implications of decisions.

    You forgot to mention parts of Wales, other parts of England and I am pretty sure some of the EU money (from Britain) finds its way to Scotland.
    Will they get more or less directly from Westminster after Brexit?

    I suspect they will not even get on the agenda.
    London Centric Westminster will treat those regions as they have done in the past.
    There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.
  • gfplux
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    Helloooo Brexiters.

    You can now come out from behind the sofa. Macron has stopped speaking.

    You can now get back to talking about a “good deal” and “they need us more than we need them”
    Or better still “we should just walk away”
    There will be no Brexit dividend for Britain.
  • Rinoa
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    phillw wrote: »
    Brexiters are the first order.


    This will be a day long remembered, it has seen the death of free movement of british people within europe, it will soon see the end of the working time directive & clean beaches and rivers.

    We could go to europe before the EU, we'll be able to go after we leave. We had clean air, rivers and beaches acts long before we joined the EU - and factory acts to protect workers since 1802.
    If I don't reply to your post,
    you're probably on my ignore list.
  • gfplux wrote: »
    Helloooo Brexiters.

    You can now come out from behind the sofa. Macron has stopped speaking.

    So, what did he say?
    Macron questioned the way the UK had chosen Brexit. Asked if the French would vote to leave the EU in the same way, he said: “Yes. Probably, in a similar context. But our context was very different, so I don’t want to take any bets. I would have definitely fought to win. But I think it is a mistake to just ask yes or no when you don’t ask people how to improve the situation and to explain how to improve it.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/21/emmanuel-macron-uk-yes-no-brexit-vote-mistake

    He think voters are too thick to work out what is best for them. I don't.
  • Thrugelmir
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    gfplux wrote: »
    You forgot to mention parts of Wales, other parts of England and I am pretty sure some of the EU money (from Britain) finds its way to Scotland.
    Will they get more or less directly from Westminster after Brexit?

    No I didn't forget. Just putting the additional funding for Northern Ireland in perspective. Nor is the money being given directly to the DUP. As is dependent upon Sinn Fein returning to Stormont.

    Treasury spending plans are set out well in advance. Have a read if it's a topic that interests you. The small print of last years Autumn budget will contain a myriad of data.
  • ukcarper
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    gfplux wrote: »
    Helloooo Brexiters.

    You can now come out from behind the sofa. Macron has stopped speaking.

    You can now get back to talking about a “good deal” and “they need us more than we need them”
    Or better still “we should just walk away”
    I watch Macron and he didn’t say anything I found surprising it’s obvious they we will not be able to be in free market unless we fully comply will rules including free movement. But he did say that a bespoke deal was possible so we will just have to wait and see how much access can be negotiated. As has been pointed out there is plenty of posturing going on on both sides but it is beneficial to both sides that a reasonable compromise is reached.
  • Herzlos
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    The EU is funding Northern Ireland with UK taxpayers money at the current time. Which must waste a huge amount of money on central administrative bureaucracy. In an era of increasing decentralisation. Where decisions are often made better at local levels.

    https://ec.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/news/eu-funding-northern-ireland-0_en

    Always worth having an open mind and considering wider implications of decisions.

    So are you proposing we give that £350m/week directly to the local governments to use? That's a great idea.

    In reality, I doubt they'll see any of it
  • Herzlos
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    He think voters are too thick to work out what is best for them. I don't.

    I don't think he said that at all, just that a binary choice with no context was a bad idea.
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