Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Arklight

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Thought that you followed events in the UK closely. A link for you.

https://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/uk_national_deficit_analysis

Not weeks or months but years. Steering the economy is akin to being a captain of a supertanker steady and slow. Levers pulled today may not have a beneficial impact for a decade.

Good that you're crediting Labour for the economic recovery you keep going on about.

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

Thank you.
That sounds wonderful.

Is that one of the hundreds of reasons for Britain leaving the EU.

The EU is funding Northern Ireland with UK taxpayers money at the current time. Which must waste a huge amount of money on central administrative bureaucracy. In an era of increasing decentralisation. Where decisions are often made better at local levels.

https://ec.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/news/eu-funding-northern-ireland-0_en

Always worth having an open mind and considering wider implications of decisions.

Herzlos

Thrugelmir wrote: »

At least the money remains in the UK economy. With the majority returning to the Treasury in the form of tax revenue.

Very true, but couldn't we have had the same benefit by spending the money on something useful like nurses or street cleaners?

kabayiri

Herzlos wrote: »

Very true, but couldn't we have had the same benefit by spending the money on something useful like nurses or street cleaners?

You're better off being truly ambitious by offering subsidised/free basic fruit and veg, and free/super cheap access to quality recreational health facilities. Change attitudes, just like we have been doing with smoking.

Tackle the cause, not the symptoms.

Pay farmers more for their produce, and they might not need so much cheap (desperate) EE labour, people who live in squalid housing conditions and spend hours bent over in fields. What kind of health challenge are they going to present in years to come?

kabayiri

gfplux wrote: »

Thank you.
That sounds wonderful.

Is that one of the hundreds of reasons for Britain leaving the EU.

Look, the EU is basically a more bureaucratic version of the Death Star, and Brexiteers are the Rebel Alliance.

Once you realise this, it explains much of the positioning

phillw

kabayiri wrote: »

Look, the EU is basically a more bureaucratic version of the Death Star, and Brexiteers are the Rebel Alliance.

Once you realise this, it explains much of the positioning

Brexiters are the first order.
Remoaners are the resistance.

Once you realise this, it all becomes much clearer.

The politicians driving brexit are only doing it for turbo bureaucracy, but one that they control and manipulate and personally benefit from.

This will be a day long remembered, it has seen the death of free movement of british people within europe, it will soon see the end of the working time directive & clean beaches and rivers.

Thrugelmir

phillw wrote: »

The politicians driving brexit are only doing it for turbo bureaucracy, but one that they control and manipulate and personally benefit from.

I'm sure you'll be reminded of this statement in the future. Works both ways. :cool:

Herzlos

Doesn't this kind of sink the "brexit means we can free ourselves from the EU to focus on the growing economies" argument?
https://www.buzzfeed.com/alexspence/britain-is-cutting-diplomats-in-asia-africa-and-the?utm_term=.nllp7mZoQJ#.pulBJYRMXl

Herzlos

kabayiri wrote: »

You're better off being truly ambitious by offering subsidised/free basic fruit and veg, and free/super cheap access to quality recreational health facilities. Change attitudes, just like we have been doing with smoking.

Tackle the cause, not the symptoms.

Pay farmers more for their produce, and they might not need so much cheap (desperate) EE labour, people who live in squalid housing conditions and spend hours bent over in fields. What kind of health challenge are they going to present in years to come?

I agree 100%.

Thrugelmir

Herzlos wrote: »

Very true, but couldn't we have had the same benefit by spending the money on something useful like nurses or street cleaners?

Plenty of vacancies if people wish to work in the NHS. For many understandable reasons they don't.

Speak to your local Council if street cleaning isn't up to scratch. Alternatively do something to help reduce the waste that's generated and the fact that many people are too lazy to dispose of rubbish thoughtfully. Perhaps it's a sign of a change of culture. With people not really caring about the enviroment they live in.